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#12
10-05-2005, 09:04 PM
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Re: ($60) QQ on the bubble
The poooooshes have it!!
bluefeet: raises 1474 to 3874 and is all-in Seat 2: folds Seat 9: calls 1474 *** FLOP *** [4d 9s Th] *** TURN *** [4d 9s Th] [5s] Meh...so the bastard rivered his Ace on me [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Despite the sharing of results...my "moment of doubt" came PF. The scared little girl inside said "call, push an Ace free flop". After the game, I questioned whether that thought had merit. But as several have pointed out, the potential to check/fold the best hand, leaving me no better off than shortie would be horrid -- not to mention getting them in as the heavy favorite IS the goal. Give me another BB, take a couple away from shortie, I still wonder if the call/push(?) line might be prudent... ~thanks 
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10-05-2005, 09:14 PM
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Re: ($60) QQ on the bubble
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Give me another BB, take a couple away from shortie, I still wonder if the call/push(?) line might be prudent... [/ QUOTE ] ICM
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10-05-2005, 09:20 PM
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Re: ($60) QQ on the bubble
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Well, BB is AI here whether I call or push. But certainly if I push over top he'd be less inclined to jump on with a decent Ace, medium PP himself. [/ QUOTE ] I think you're contradicting yourself here...
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10-05-2005, 09:22 PM
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Re: ($60) QQ on the bubble
Yup...thinking aloud. I do own sngpt, but I'm horrid at math (too old to remember!) I suppose it might be as easy as changing his raise to a push, my push to a call...meh, I'm tired.
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#16
10-05-2005, 09:28 PM
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Re: ($60) QQ on the bubble
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[ QUOTE ] Well, BB is AI here whether I call or push. But certainly if I push over top he'd be less inclined to jump on with a decent Ace, medium PP himself. [/ QUOTE ] I think you're contradicting yourself here... [/ QUOTE ] No, just probably didn't explain it well. Add to the first sentence "...if he elects to play the hand". The original riaser's raise was big enough to put BB AI. Pushing vs. calling wouldn't effect an "isolation" option, other than the fact that i mentioned - he'd be less likely to call the orginal raise. Which perhaps was the point you were making originally.
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#17
10-05-2005, 09:50 PM
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Re: ($60) QQ on the bubble
Hmmmm... If I "call" button's "push" on this hand, it's only +.1% if he pushes 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+ (I'm gathering I'd get some FE credit for actually pushing over the large raise).
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10-05-2005, 09:57 PM
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Re: ($60) QQ on the bubble
Yeah that'ld be about right but i think u gotta include the near gauranteed 600 chips u get next hand so maybe add 500. In his position I'm pushing any two here though. I think that position, as clear bubble bully is sufficient to make a stand here. I would be folding TT/AK here, even versus any 2, but I think QQ is just strong enough to make a stand.
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10-05-2005, 09:59 PM
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Re: ($60) QQ on the bubble
Don't care how often he calls, QQ is enormous in this spot. EZ push.
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10-05-2005, 10:20 PM
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Re: ($60) QQ on the bubble
I'm lazy with the math too, but for what it's worth, I've never folded QQ 4 handed preflop. If there is a real short stack maybe I will decide to play it cheap if possible. But I will play it for all my chips if need be, even with an extreme short stack. The improved chance at 1st is worth the times I get 4th. I'm not folding the 3rd best starting hand 4 handed, ever.
Steve
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