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10-04-2005, 12:31 PM
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Re: Name an \"average\" NFL QB
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If he were the QB of the Lions, I doubt many would think much of him. [/ QUOTE ] maybe, maybe not. the only thing you know is that he plays his best in big games, late in games, and in overtime. he's won 2 Super Bowl MVP's, and played well in a 3rd Super Bowl win. he's now calling the majority of plays in his own offense, which only 1 other QB does. to rank him 8th, b/c you think he might not be as good on another team, is ludicrous. the fact is, he is a perfect match for his team and vice-versa; which is different than Dilfer being carried to the Super Bowl by his team. I'm not sure the Patriots would have won the Super Bowl with any of the QB's you listed above him. probably Manning, but who knows - that is just speculation. I'd prefer to make my rankings based on actual performance. as to your question, I think any QB that has bounces around the league for 6-7 years, but hasn't become a very good, consistent player, is by definition average. good enough to hang around, but not any better. guys like Dilfer, Flutie, Collins, Brooks all come to mind. 
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10-04-2005, 12:33 PM
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Re: Name an \"average\" NFL QB
I have a rule for people who say Brady is a "system" quarterback. I call them morons. Its a simple rule, keeps things nice and neat.
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10-04-2005, 01:56 PM
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Re: Name an \"average\" NFL QB
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10-04-2005, 02:02 PM
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Re: Name an \"average\" NFL QB
Trent Dilfer.
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10-04-2005, 02:37 PM
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I think Ben Roethlisberger is average, he's good at handing a ball off 30-35 times a game and making safe throws to Hines Ward.
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10-04-2005, 03:28 PM
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Re: Name an \"average\" NFL QB
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I have a rule for people who say Brady is a "system" quarterback. I call them morons. Its a simple rule, keeps things nice and neat. [/ QUOTE ] I think to a certain extent everybody's a system QB because QB's the position most effected by everyone around them. They depend on RBs, OL, WRs, TEs, and to an extent, the defense and special teams.
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10-04-2005, 04:43 PM
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Re: Name an \"average\" NFL QB
Plummer and Collins, fine, but the other 3 are above average. Well, maybe not, I mean there are a lot of very solid QBs in the league right now which I guess should make average = pretty good. Either way, IMO, you can't group those other guys with Plummer and Collins.
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10-04-2005, 04:57 PM
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Re: Name an \"average\" NFL QB
Agreed, nobody plays in a vaccuum.
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10-04-2005, 06:00 PM
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Re: Name an \"average\" NFL QB
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Plummer and Collins, fine, but the other 3 are above average. Well, maybe not, I mean there are a lot of very solid QBs in the league right now which I guess should make average = pretty good. Either way, IMO, you can't group those other guys with Plummer and Collins. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't call Jake Delhomme above average. He's been really bad this year.
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