Abortion = less crime?

[hetron]

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My stance is that abortion is wrong on the premise that killing a human is wrong, but I find some comfort in the fact that the entire institution is and will remain atheist liberals killing off atheist liberals.

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[Felix_Nietsche]

My stance is that abortion is wrong on the premise that killing a human is wrong, but I find some comfort in the fact that the entire institution is and will remain atheist liberals killing off atheist liberals.
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Some atheists, like me, are conservative, voted for Bush, and want him to appoint conservative judges to the supreme court.

On the surface the author's premise may have some validity. Certain segments of the USA population are more prown to crime and if this group is having a large percentage of abortions then it seems logical crime would be reduced.

[Cyrus]

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Certain segments of the USA population are more prown to crime.

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I think you meant to write prawn.

[John Ho]

Atheist liberals are smart enough not to drink the KoolAid of religious dogma. The less people who have their lives dictated by the teachings of Jesus or Santa or the Easter Bunny the better off we are.

The phenomenom of abortion is similar to that of birth rates...the poor tend to have more kids than the wealthy. And, unfortunately, it seems the religious probably have less abortions per capita than the atheists.

It's kind of like anti-natural selection. Or proof of Unintelligent Design.

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My stance is that abortion is wrong on the premise that killing a human is wrong, but I find some comfort in the fact that the entire institution is and will remain atheist liberals killing off atheist liberals.

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[Stu Pidasso]

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Atheist liberals are smart enough not to drink the KoolAid of religious dogma. The less people who have their lives dictated by the teachings of Jesus or Santa or the Easter Bunny the better off we are.


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I'm sure the millions slaughtered under Stalin and Mao would agree with you.

Stu

[John Ho]

Turning oneself into a godlike figure hardly makes one an atheist.

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Atheist liberals are smart enough not to drink the KoolAid of religious dogma. The less people who have their lives dictated by the teachings of Jesus or Santa or the Easter Bunny the better off we are.


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I'm sure the millions slaughtered under Stalin and Mao would agree with you.

Stu

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[TomCollins]

Why don't we just execute petty criminals as well. I mean, they are more likely to commit more serious crimes than someone who has not been convicted of a crime.

[Malachii]

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Why don't we just execute petty criminals as well. I mean, they are more likely to commit more serious crimes than someone who has not been convicted of a crime.

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This is just stupid.

I haven't read the book yet, but each time I hear this I remember my stats teachers repeating "correlation is not causation". So, are there statistics to back this up? Example, previously high crime areas that coincided with high abortion rates in the years discussed, followed by lower crime rates today? Or is just the idea talked about? It is interesting at how quickly this thread devolved from topic discussion to the morality issue of abortion (which I'm sure there is a thread for if people want further debate).

[slickpoppa]

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I haven't read the book yet, but each time I hear this I remember my stats teachers repeating "correlation is not causation". So, are there statistics to back this up? Example, previously high crime areas that coincided with high abortion rates in the years discussed, followed by lower crime rates today? Or is just the idea talked about? It is interesting at how quickly this thread devolved from topic discussion to the morality issue of abortion (which I'm sure there is a thread for if people want further debate).

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Their analysis was fairly robust. They isolated a lot of other variables to reduce the possibility of hidden variables. They will never be able to prove their claim in the 2+2=4 sense, but their evidence is pretty strong.