JJ-way too fast?

[RikaKazak]

I disagree, why take it down now? if you're going to do that, do it with 5,6s, not JJ, JJ playing a flop has more value.

[AZK]

anything and everything has some relative value in the game. Who cares whether this is done with JJ or 65s?

[tdarko]

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I disagree, why take it down now?

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maybe b/c JJ is a tricky hand to play post-flop?

[kagame]

not when you hit two outers

[Hattifnatt]

Raise more preflop, something like $28. I probably fold on the flop to his min-raise.

[RikaKazak]

because JJ has a lot more value heads up then 5,6s. Also it's LOADS easier to play. your comment makes no sense.

[Big_Jim]

Do you like the posters PF raise?

There's no flop in the world you can be that comfortable with that doesn't have a J on it when everybody calls that meager bet.

Admittedly... I don't really mind too much when only one or two call... but when EVERYBODY calls.......

[mgsimpleton]

one thing is the pot was already very big so if you are going all the way it's hard to avoid losing your stack BUT for the sake of argument i like a smaller bet on the flop. 442 is a very dry board and though JJ is scaries than like KK for instance because there are more overcards, the hands that are goingto call even a half pot bet are usualyl drawing dead. and if AQ is going to call half pot but not full pot, that's fine, let him draw to 6 outs... but it's not like if you bethalf one person with a Q, one with a K, and one with a A is going to call you because you bet half pot... likely you will just make more from medium pocket pairs and keep the pot smaller when you are beat. people have a tendency to turn up the heat with JJ on these boards but if you think about the range that is calling a smaller than pot bet, it really doesn't make any sense.