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Old 09-27-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: King high against rock with high wtsd%

why did u bet the river?
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: King high against rock with high wtsd%

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why did u bet the river?

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Don't grunch when you're asking a question. Do you see why?
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: King high against rock with high wtsd%

If the board were somewhat draw-ish I would like this line a lot better. But I can't see CO calling this turn without a hand or at least Ace-high on this board.
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:54 PM
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I actually thought the river was the easiest part and should be bet since he could easily be calling up to this point with something like AK and would fold for 1 more.

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I agree. When you put him on something like AK I would fire another one.

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I can't see many players calling this turn with AK without intending to go to SD with it.
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Old 09-27-2005, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: King high against rock with high wtsd%

Hello,

You played this hand like a pro, except that you are playing in a Crypto pounds game. You know the max rake in a pounds game is way higher than the max rake in an equivalent dollars game? You should never play in that game if you do not have to!!!
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Old 09-27-2005, 02:43 PM
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He needs to fold 16% of the time on the river to break even.

Let's look at some hands he could hold, first ones that are never folding:

QQ - 1
JJ - 6
TT - 6

Ones he might fold:

AK - 12
AQ - 12

He needs to fold ~25% with AK or AQ to break even. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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When your opponent will never fold, bluffing is a mistake, given the action and the texture of the board, and the opponent you are up against, he will call your river bet 95-100% of the time. And bluffing for image purposes is a fools game. You should only be bluffing when it is correct to bluff and your image will take care of itself. It is clearly not correct to bluff the river in this example, if you dont see that you need to study the game more.
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Old 09-27-2005, 03:30 PM
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I actually thought the river was the easiest part and should be bet since he could easily be calling up to this point with something like AK and would fold for 1 more.

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I agree. When you put him on something like AK I would fire another one.

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I can't see many players calling this turn with AK without intending to go to SD with it.

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I am really curious what others think about this.
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Old 09-27-2005, 03:34 PM
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I actually thought the river was the easiest part and should be bet since he could easily be calling up to this point with something like AK and would fold for 1 more.

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I agree. When you put him on something like AK I would fire another one.

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I can't see many players calling this turn with AK without intending to go to SD with it.

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I am really curious what others think about this.

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AK is too strong to fold on the river on this board against a preflop raiser who may be betting anything postflop. Now if the hero had a read that the villain would make this bad fold on the river than the hero should bet, but the hero doesnt have this read, and without a read the hero should assume the villain is smart enough to not fold AK in this spot.
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Old 09-27-2005, 04:01 PM
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Wouldn't we expect a 3bet preflop from AK? I suspect he's calling down with a medium pocket pair, and therefore would not bet the river.
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Old 09-27-2005, 04:32 PM
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PREFLOP: Close enough between raising or calling that its not worth discussing.

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This is a raise, and it's not close or worth discussing. KQo simply has too much to gain by limiting the field.

Betting the river isn't going to be profitable. Most players don't have the "call the turn and fold the river with AK UI" line in their repertoire, and from villain's preflop stats it is unlikely that he has this level of sophistication. So once he calls the turn his hand range on this dry board can be narrowed down to hands that beat you. I'd bet AK again, but KQ is begging to be called by A-high or middle pocket pairs.
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