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Old 09-26-2005, 08:58 AM
newhizzle newhizzle is offline
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Default Re: I wanted to bet Ace high so badly, but alas, I am weak.

first of all the OP said that the table was pretty tight, other than to diamonds, this is a drawless board, if noone has a queen its definately possible that we can take the pot down with a continuation bet on the flop, and if not it will buy a free card on turn, but if i had bet the flop, i think i would be betting this turn since it dosent seem like anyone has a queen, i think that it is fairly likely that we have the best hand on the flop and i think it is worth a bet, i dont think im ever checking behind on this flop, thats just asking for someone to take the pot away from me somewhere, i always thought this was pretty standard
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Old 09-26-2005, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: I wanted to bet Ace high so badly, but alas, I am weak.

You're throwing bets away in this pot betting into 3 people, tight or not.
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Old 09-26-2005, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: I wanted to bet Ace high so badly, but alas, I am weak.

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You're throwing bets away in this pot betting into 3 people, tight or not.

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i guess im off on this, but i think your throwing away pots when you dont bet, whats your move if you check, first to act bets turn and its folded to you, i dont think you can call and this is a bluff a lot from unknown 2/4 players
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Old 09-26-2005, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: I wanted to bet Ace high so badly, but alas, I am weak.

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i dont think you can call and this is a bluff a lot from unknown 2/4 players

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This sentence contradicts itself. If it's a bluff often enough that you make money by calling, call. If it's not, fold.
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Old 09-26-2005, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: I wanted to bet Ace high so badly, but alas, I am weak.

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i dont think you can call and this is a bluff a lot from unknown 2/4 players

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This sentence contradicts itself. If it's a bluff often enough that you make money by calling, call. If it's not, fold.

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you will often have to call two bets and i dont think it is a bluff often enough for that to be profitable, you can avoid this descision completely by betting the flop, depending on your read, inducing a bluff on the river and caling may be the right choice, but as ive said before i think we have enough fold equity and showdown value to bet if you can get someone to fold on the flop
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Old 09-26-2005, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: I wanted to bet Ace high so badly, but alas, I am weak.

I lead this flop and turn 95% of the time, even with three callers. I don't know if it is a leak to bet into so many players with A high, but I mainly do it to reduce the field, and because many players will call a flop bet and fold on the turn.
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Old 09-26-2005, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: I wanted to bet Ace high so badly, but alas, I am weak.

A flop bet when checked to is in order here. See who hangs around in the hand and take it from there in terms of your decisions on the turn and river. Use your position in the hand to your advantage ...
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Old 09-26-2005, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: I wanted to bet Ace high so badly, but alas, I am weak.

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You're throwing bets away in this pot betting into 3 people, tight or not.

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I think a flop bet takes this down the 1 in 7 times you need to make it profitable.

Add the chance that a call could be someone peeling one off before folding the turn, the chance you have the best hand and the chance you might improve - and I think this is an easy bet.
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Old 09-26-2005, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: I wanted to bet Ace high so badly, but alas, I am weak.

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You're throwing bets away in this pot betting into 3 people, tight or not.

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I think a flop bet takes this down the 1 in 7 times you need to make it profitable.

Add the chance that a call could be someone peeling one off before folding the turn, the chance you have the best hand and the chance you might improve - and I think this is an easy bet.

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throw in the possibility of getting a free river card, i think this bet is super easy.
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