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Old 09-25-2005, 11:48 AM
eviljeff eviljeff is offline
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Default Re: Got myself in trouble with 88

why call the turn if you're c/f the river? you've got 2 outs to improve - you certainly don't have odds to peel here.
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Old 09-25-2005, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Got myself in trouble with 88

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why call the turn if you're c/f the river? you've got 2 outs to improve - you certainly don't have odds to peel here.

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Because a lag will take a stab on this turn when you check to him, but won't necessarily bluff the river with a small pair, or ace high that has showdown value.
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:21 AM
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I got myself in trouble by being agressive pre/post flop but weak-passive afterwards. Agree?

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Yes. Just call preflop and check/fold the flop.
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Old 09-26-2005, 09:02 AM
jakbse jakbse is offline
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Default Re: Got myself in trouble with 88

I'd limp with this one in EP, mainly for the possibility of trips. When I miss the flop and there are two overs in a small pot I'd fold, except against a maniac type of guy.
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Old 09-26-2005, 11:32 AM
MATT111 MATT111 is offline
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Default Re: Got myself in trouble with 88

Preflop is ok.
I fold this flop with 2 overcards against 3 opponents.
As you didn`t the turn is tuff. I tend to bet and fold to a raise.
Why do you fold the river. You did not give villain credit for a hand so far. You should find a fold somewhere else in the hand - as you went to the river: call.
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Old 09-26-2005, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: Got myself in trouble with 88

From UTG+1 I'm usually limping pocket 8's. There are just way too many bad flops out their for 88. Post flop, I'm check folding.
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Old 09-26-2005, 05:45 PM
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Just out of interest, why the raise preflop in early position ??

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This hand shows why it is hard to play a mid-pair from EP. You are expected to be the aggressor on the flop. Add several LPP's CC'ing you pre-flop, and it's really tough to bet into them with the overcard flop. Since they are calling stations, you don't know if they have made their hands.
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