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Old 09-24-2005, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: ($27) 88 Blinds Gap Concept?

Hmmmm. My first reaction is that this is an easy push. You still have some fold equity, and I see many potential villain hands that you are 3-1 or better against (Ax, lower PP, suited kings or queens). Otherwise you're probably racing.

Thinking about it a bit more, the villain's raise to 800 seems to say "I'm playing this pot", but that could be a misinterpretation. He also might be saying this w/ A7s or 66. A read would obviously help. I'm still inclined to push though.
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:49 PM
kong98 kong98 is offline
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Default Re: ($27) 88 Blinds Gap Concept?

I usually push this, but looking at it, I think its a mistake. If SB has been relatively tight, then against

99+,A9s+,KJs+,QJs,ATo+,KJo+,QJo

You're a 45% dog.

I assume you've been pushing a fair bit already, so any hand he's raising you with, he's likely to call your push with.
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Old 09-24-2005, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: ($27) 88 Blinds Gap Concept?

Easy push, your ahead here with fold equity. If he calls and your in a coin flip thats not the worst thing in the world.
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Old 09-24-2005, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: ($27) 88 Blinds Gap Concept?

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I think if he showed me A9o I might gamble though.


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If he showed you A9o and said he was going to call a push, you should definitely fold.

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Yeah I know it's somewhat -$EV however winning makes me big chip leader on the bubble. Depending on the other players, gambling might be worth it I think.
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: ($27) 88 Blinds Gap Concept?

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I usually push this, but looking at it, I think its a mistake. If SB has been relatively tight, then against

99+,A9s+,KJs+,QJs,ATo+,KJo+,QJo

You're a 45% dog.

I assume you've been pushing a fair bit already, so any hand he's raising you with, he's likely to call your push with.

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I have been fairly tight recently. That seams like a reasonable range, except probably a little narrow. Probably closer to 66+, A7s+, A9o+, KTs+, KJo+, QJs/o. So my chip equity is slightly better than what you think.
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: ($27) 88 Blinds Gap Concept?


Youd need a bazooka to make me fold 88 here.
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: ($27) 88 Blinds Gap Concept?

Couldn't someone do this with any pair HU?

Even tight people will raise with a lot as the big stack from the small blind. I would push every time.
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:57 PM
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If he pushed here, it's close but I would fold here because you have more skill at the bubble compared to your opponents that you can outplay them in future situations.

Given that he has raised 4xBB, he doesn't seem trying to intice you into the pot either and just wants to steal your blind. Even with a 10-20% chance that he folds here, giving you 1000 chips makes the risk of him calling you worthwhile. I push.
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Old 09-24-2005, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: ($27) 88 Blinds Gap Concept?

If he pushed this is a super easy call.
It is less likely he has AA/KK because donks try to get fancy with these hands.


You're gonna bet getting 2-1 here a lot of the time and no player is good enough to pass that here.
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Old 09-25-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: ($27) 88 Blinds Gap Concept?

Just seems he is wanting a call with this 800 chip bet. Still at 10x the bb. Just seems tricky... of course maybe that is his intent.

I agree with the other guy though, I call a push.
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