Play by play & color men

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Hey I got a GREAT idea!

next time I play, Im going to bitch to management, get the game to hate me for being an ass, and tell all the players that Im too stupid to realize they are giving me free information, and to shutup, because I think I should rule the world, because I am the cardroom king of the midwest.

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You've pointed out the main reason that I've kept quiet. I don't want to be an ass, look holier than thou and I don't think I'm king of anything. But it is the rule, you know, and if people let one slide what about the others? Additionally I just don't think it's fair to the other players. It gets so bad sometimes, and they can talk so loud, that they may just as well have folded their cards face up and the conversation, and all loud conversation during a hand is distracting. Still and all I thank you for telling me *why*

[chekthastak]

I agree completely with Howard. It's really annoying when there is a hand going on and people are discussing what they had. This gives players in the hand information they shouldn't have. Like say the flop comes 88K and one guy gets upset and says I can't believe I folded my 8. Now if there is somebody in the hand with AK they are pretty confident nobody in the hand has an 8 since there is only 1 left in the deck. Now he can play his hand much more aggresively. It can also have the reverse affect. This is an actual example I saw in a casino and it cost a guy his entire stack. Flop comes KKJ, and a guy who has folded basically jumps out his seat and says I had a K. The pot is heads up so one guy goes looks at the person out of the hand and smiles and moves all in, the guy still in the hand calls. The caller ended up having AK, and the guy who pushed had AJ, but since someone anounced they had a K, he figured the person in the pot didn't have a K.

It's one thing if your tells give away your hand, but when it begins to influence the play of everybody in the hand, and you don't even have cards it should be put to a stop immediately.

BTW this is my first post, glad to be a contributing member.

[Georgia Avenue]

This is a complex issue. I agree with the OP but don't have a quick solution. The problem with asking for advice about this is that it differs by place, player and game.

Game:
In low stakes limit: who cares really? Can't see how this kind of talk would influence things.
In high stakes limit or nl: Someone this stupid shoyld be welcome at the table regardless of the damage he may cause on a particular hand.
Tournaments: A friendly game is unnesessary so complain as loudly as you can and demand thatthe guy shut up. Nittitude not a problem.

This leaves only: Low to mid stakes NL. As chek points out, this could affect someones whole stack...

Anyway, I prefer to speak immediately to the player if I am in a hand. Stop whatever you're doing and either wink and say "Shhhhhhhh..." OR Ask them directly, "Please, dude, don't talk during my hands..." This makes it seem like its simply a courtesy to YOU as if YOU are the one with the weird silence issue, and you're asking the moreon a favor.
This is much more effective than complaining to the dealer/floor if you ask me.

You could also just start staring at the dealer until he gets the hint. But when the dealer asks someone to do something, it's much less effective and may change as soon as the dealer leaves. My $2.50...

[STLantny]

It was VERY VERY annoying to me at first, when I heard talk like this, but then I wisened up, and now really look forward to it. Its all about the bottom line, and table talk always means a better bottom line, no matter what that talk may be.

[dtbog]

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The caller ended up having AK, and the guy who pushed had AJ, but since someone anounced they had a K, he figured the person in the pot didn't have a K.


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Impeccable logic; quads are impossible and poker players never lie about what they folded.

[Richard Tanner]

1) STL is just an ass 2) I believe he is alluding to the information that they are giving away, and that you can use it.

Cody

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Hey I got a GREAT idea!

next time I play, Im going to bitch to management, get the game to hate me for being an ass, and tell all the players that Im too stupid to realize they are giving me free information, and to shutup, because I think I should rule the world, because I am the cardroom king of the midwest.

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Whos the Troll now? Quit trying to pick a fight jackass

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Whos the Troll now? Quit trying to pick a fight jackass


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There was a thread about this guy (STL) elsewhere that I'm now beginning to understand.

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[STLantny]

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Whos the Troll now? Quit trying to pick a fight jackass


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There was a thread about this guy (STL) elsewhere that I'm now beginning to understand.

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Yes, I am an ass, to you guys, possibly. But, I would never ever let it affect my earn rate at the poker table. So in fact Im helping you guys out, because Im trying to show you how to make more money. So, basically, you are the ones being assess. I accept your apology.



And to nut4dawgs, are you refering to the thread where someone said that I was ignoring everyone??? hehe...go take a look at that again, its actually quite funny.

Poker Hint #165: The guy to your right yelling, "Damn, I folded my 8!", will be the one calling bets he shouldn't looking to hit his straight with 62o.