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Old 09-22-2005, 02:17 AM
Jocke_F Jocke_F is offline
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Default Re: I hit flush on turn, board double pairs on river

turn bet is awful ? as far as I can tell he is drawing to 2 outs and I want him to stay in noone agrees?
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Old 09-22-2005, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: I hit flush on turn, board double pairs on river

Bet more on the turn, check behind the river, KK pwned you.
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:17 AM
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The guy had KQo
To be honest I think the advice I got on this hand was awful, first of all, betting big on turn will most likely only get worse hands to fold and keep in the monsters that beat me and possibly AK, I am not afraid to get outdrawn this is as way ahead, way behind it can get so I dont need to bet big to protect my hand.
On the river, does anyone check a boat or quads here, the risk of me checking behind is huge, betting out will possibly get him value from a king or a flush and he will get raised by a nines full boat anyway, and if really check-raised with a monster here wouldn't it make more sense if he pushed it all in.
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: Results and thoughts

nobody decent checks the boat or quads but you had no reads on villain. I don't think I can bet this river without reads. besides, most Ks fold anyways.

Nh though. well played.
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:27 AM
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I still think you played this poorly. You got very lucky that he made a move with a hand that could only beat a bluff. What the hell do you do if he moves in after you bet 1/4 of the pot on the river. I think you're bordering on results oriented here.
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: I hit flush on turn, board double pairs on river

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I think it's a fine value bet. But don't bet so small.

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Most people won't check/raise a hand with showdown value that is almost never getting a better hand to fold. This guy played like a retard but you didn't bet enough and left value on the table against non-retards.
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: Results and thoughts

I still call.
Might need an explanation, why would he bet out with a flopped monster then suddenly start to slowplay it, going for a weird river check-raise that line doesn't make any sense at all to me and I would still put him on a bluff and call
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: I hit flush on turn, board double pairs on river

best advice I got by far was betting more on the river, maybe half pot it? Do you see any problems with the other streets?
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: I hit flush on turn, board double pairs on river

Other streets are cool, but if I'm raising this flop I'm going to make it a big enough raise that someone could possibly fold something. And if you do that, then you have no problem betting enough on the turn/river to get all in against a king. Nice hand, though. Most people don't value bet this river, but I think it is a good value bet. The only reason I initially suggested checking was because you are obviously pot stuck if you bet. But then I came to my sense and realised he must have a king and you should obviously value bet.
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: I hit flush on turn, board double pairs on river

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best advice I wanted to hear was betting more on the river, maybe half pot it? Do you see any problems with the other streets?

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