A Texas Hold 'Em game with two jokers in the deck - Page 2

jogger08152 · #11 09-22-2005, 12:31 AM

Actually if he pairs his non-joker card, he would have trips, not two pair. Probably someone has pointed this out already.

Guernica4000 · #12 09-22-2005, 02:21 AM

Wouldn't it be great to look at your hand and see pocket jokers? You would have the absolute nuts pre-flop. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Stu Pidasso · #13 09-22-2005, 10:00 AM

You're going to have to construct a simulator to find your answer.

Stu

#14 09-22-2005, 12:15 PM

I wonder how well this game would work if:
1. You had the option of giving up one of your hole cards pre-flop.
and
2. The joker was only usable if you gave up the other card, or if it were on the board.

#15 09-22-2005, 12:31 PM

I can't tell you the %, but I'll take the joker for sure. I'm pretty sure it's a favorite even without a second card.

#16 09-22-2005, 12:45 PM

My head hurts too much if i try to do the math...pass me a red bull and ill try it in an hour or so...
I can tell you from playing a play money hold em game on yahoo that had 1 joker in the deck...if you had it you were raising and i dont recall losing with it ever.

#17 09-22-2005, 01:41 PM

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I can't tell you the %, but I'll take the joker for sure. I'm pretty sure it's a favorite even without a second card.

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I think the Joker is a roughly 60/40 favorite over pocket aces.

However, when you give up the card, your opponent *knows* that the best card you could have is a joker - so, most of the time, you'll have at best TP on the flop, and be drawing to a better hand. That means that, although you have strong pot equity if you stay in with the joker, you're still looking at relatively weak implied odds.

The reason that this variation is interesting to me is not so much because of the joker, but because players have the option of representing the joker. (Say by throwing the rag off of an ace.)

J.A.Sucker · #18 09-22-2005, 04:42 PM

The joker would destroy the aces. Think about how often you'd make a set...

Now think about how often you'd make a straight...

How about those sick boards that come down 4 to a flush or a straight. You'd have the nuts so often it's scary.

#19 09-22-2005, 06:18 PM

Who the hell plays with Jokers... wasted post...

Go back to home games.

chuddo · #20 09-23-2005, 06:29 AM

nice post, as i am always looking for stupid prop games and bets to gamble it up with my idiot friends.

i look forward to trying it out and seeing some numbers on this situation.

im pretty positive i can convince some friends to run through 20 or so hands with a bet on each of my 7-Joker vs their AA.