3 more reasons why the turn screwplay rules...

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my read was that he would have raised the flop with a pair, so I went with it.

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This is interesting - I do my best to incorporate my reads into my play but I don't think I have anything near this specific - what led you to this conclusion about the villain?

I only ask this because I have been getting checkraised with all sorts of pairs on the turn HU at 10/20 - flopped top/middle pair, turned bottom pair, a PP. I dunno. I've started 3betting 2ndpairTopKicker against certain opponents b/c they'll checkraise so light on the turn.

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I have been using this play a lot lately. It seems to be golden against specific villains at higher limits.

I was confused by the 3 bets the first 2-3 times it happened (I have top set, they have ace high), then I realized the logic the aggro player is using when 3 betting, and I have started check/raising the river to follow this up some.


It is fairly sexy in the right spots; it looks like you have 2 overs and are giving up, aggros love to take a pot.

[NLSoldier]

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my read was that he would have raised the flop with a pair, so I went with it.

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This is interesting - I do my best to incorporate my reads into my play but I don't think I have anything near this specific - what led you to this conclusion about the villain?

I only ask this because I have been getting checkraised with all sorts of pairs on the turn HU at 10/20 - flopped top/middle pair, turned bottom pair, a PP. I dunno. I've started 3betting 2ndpairTopKicker against certain opponents b/c they'll checkraise so light on the turn.

Surf

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the read was just based on the last half hour or so that i had been playing with him 3 handed. he never wiated till the turn to raise with a flopped pair.

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Were you calling the river UI in hand one?

[aK13]

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So screwplay is the sexy for the turn instead of river?

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ya

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I wonder what Entity has to say about your avatar.

[NLSoldier]

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Were you calling the river UI in hand one?

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yeah.

[jason_t]

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Were you calling the river UI in hand one?

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yeah.

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Thanks, the hand makes more sense to me now. Nice hands.

[flawless_victory]

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What's up with checking the river in hand 3?

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, and I pretty much expected him to bet any hand that he would have called a bet with.

[/ QUOTE ]this doesnt make any sense. i think hes prob not betting unless he has you beat... but hell call with anything here. even, like, Khigh. v easy bet... that check was a mistake, man.

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hmm, i guess i dont know. i feel like i am never winning if 2 bets go in on the river.

[/ QUOTE ]if he raises the river, you are FVCKED. just fold if you can.

[NLSoldier]

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What's up with checking the river in hand 3?

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, and I pretty much expected him to bet any hand that he would have called a bet with.

[/ QUOTE ]this doesnt make any sense. i think hes prob not betting unless he has you beat... but hell call with anything here. even, like, Khigh. v easy bet... that check was a mistake, man.

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hmm, i guess i dont know. i feel like i am never winning if 2 bets go in on the river.

[/ QUOTE ]if he raises the river, you are FVCKED. just fold if you can.

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i cant. or i would have bet. what do you think of the turn cap? its not something i would usally do, so feeling like i had maybe gone a little overboard on the turn+the 8 pairing, plus the otehr stuff I said, all factored in to the river check.

cmon nah! youre so gay, dont be such a pussy and bet/fold the riv! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]