move to vegas or what?

so one couldn't live off 1/2nl? there are so many bad players in that game i can't see why not

I was there over Labor Day and couldn't believe my eyes either... I played the 15 HE @ Bellagio and the 20/40 O8 1/2 kill there as well... Ended up only like 300 after getting cold decked in the greatest O8 casino game I've ever been in... the holdem games were super soft from what I could tell although when I was killing the 15 I didn't see any reason to take my shot @ the 30. If I didn't have a good job and family here, I'd be out to Vegas in a heartbeat...

[dmoney]

Well the 1/2NL games from where im from (Ontario, Canada) are pretty soft filled with young american guys coming across the border cause gambling age here is 19. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] so lots of young "STUDS " who think they are hot shots. If u play tight agressive id say avg u can make is 200$ / night. BUT

at 12$ session fees per hour. thats alot of money ur giving up to play here. It almost isnt worth it. Have 1 bad day and it REALLY hurts. At least at raked pots you only pay the rake if u win [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] when u have a losing day its not as bad.

but hey, thats neither here nor their. 1/2 NL u have to do alot more work to get the same out of it vs a higher limit. The higher limits arnt proportionally larger fees. higher is better if u can afford it.

[okayplayer]

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If you are moving to play pro, I suggest you read Dynasty's posts on his living there, if you haven't already.

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Do you have a link? I searched, but couldn't find it...

[Guthrie]

Move to Vegas.

[Justin A]

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Wow you were able to determine so definitely that I have absolutely no clue what i'm talking about from just the information in that post that you could make a completely insulting blanket statement and feel no need to even provide a scrap of reason to your position? Man.

Well, maybe I still really have no clue what i'm talking about after 5 years of serious, profitable play and steadily earning more than I ever have in a 'real' job, but I know enough to think maybe you should give me a little more detail on this insight you seem to have, or else just try and provide some kind of actually useful response, or just shut up in the first place if you haven't got anything... perhaps I should summarize what i'm looking for to help you out:

1. Vegas was not what I expected, in terms of average player competence, and has anyone else found this to be true compared to their home games?

2. Is it possible that a low limit game of 1/2 NL actually contains so very many players of such very poor ability that it might in fact be more profitable than limits up to say 5/10 or 10/20 where several good players are chopping up just one or two fish at the table and trying to squeeze what they can out of each other in the mean time?

3. Pros and cons of living in vegas with soft games as a lifestyle benefit, not a reason to move.

If you haven't got something to say in relation to this, don't bother saying anything at all.

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So you have been playing profitably for five years but somehow have such a small bankroll that you tripled it at small stakes games? I don't buy it.

[umdpoker]

i was in vegas about a month ago. the games i played at the mgm were really soft. probably the softest i have ever played in. however, it might have just been good luck that i got seated at the right table.

anyways, hasn't the cost of living in veags gone up a lot recently? according to the in-flight magazine i read on the way out there, vegas properties have tripled in value the last few years. however, since it was in a magazine filled with real estate ads, it is very possible that they just hyped it up.

[dogmeat]

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To much rakes, tips, and other expenses for 1/2 NL to be profitable. Yes they're exceedingly horrible players, but it doesn't matter if your winning 20bb/100. You're playing like 40 hands an hour or something live(maybe less). Plus all those expenses.

2/5 NL is kinduv a money suck. Get good enough to play 5/10 NL if you really want to win money live.

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I disagree. There is a rake online, and the rake with a tip in the $1/$2 is not considerably different. I don't doubt $50,000 at the $1/$2 NL is possible.

As for the $2/$5 NL games, I find them to be very soft. In fact, I see no reason to move to the $5/$10 or $10/$25 NL games - the return/bankroll requirements are not worth it. The $2/$5 NL is a steady $25 to $50 an hour, depending on the casino and the table you get lucky (or unlucky) enough to hit, and of course, your ability.

FWIW, I see the best of both worlds as playing the live games during weekends and playing online much of the rest of the time...........Sould be $100K in there on a shoestring budget for a year's play. Then you can see if you should move up and try for a higher annual income.

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[jman220]

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I tripled my bankroll in about 35 hours of play

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Your bankroll is too small by a factor of about 10.

[zuluking]

After reading some of your other posts, I'd say you are not even close to being ready for a shot as a Vegas pro. That and the fact that your bankroll is way too small.