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#11
09-11-2005, 02:42 PM
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Re: Wondering why I peel
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In any event, I probably bet this turn the same as you, possibly with the intent of taking a free showdown. -Brian [/ QUOTE ] No. You have 2nd pair against bad opponents. You should always be prepared to value bet this on the river. 
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#12
09-11-2005, 09:49 PM
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Re: Wondering why I peel
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[ QUOTE ] In any event, I probably bet this turn the same as you, possibly with the intent of taking a free showdown. -Brian [/ QUOTE ] No. You have 2nd pair against bad opponents. You should always be prepared to value bet this on the river. [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty sure I'm missing river value bets in close situations like this. Maybe I'll try to post some hands where I think it's close. -Brian
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#14
09-11-2005, 10:27 PM
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Re: Wondering why I peel
I'm afraid of an odd check-raise on the turn, but without any proof that this will occur I will bet to protect my hand and fold to a raise.
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#15
09-11-2005, 10:27 PM
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Re: Wondering why I peel
You peel b/c you have about 5.5 outs mostly to the nuts and your getting 7:1 pot odds plus at least 1 more bet on the turn giving you at least 9:1 implied odds. My only concern is how often the sb checkraises here but given that you were the pfr, I don't think he checkraises this flop too often.
Rest of the hand looks good
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#16
09-11-2005, 11:06 PM
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Re: Wondering why I peel
Nice hand, sir. I'd peel because SB already showed himself to be loose and passive. You're getting 5.5 outs to the turn, and damn good implied odds, since 4 outs to the nuts, and 1.5 to the second nuts. Plus you may overcards to a pair.
If you said BB is laggish, but can lay down bluffs, I'd consider semibluff raising the flop and sometimes betting the turn.
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#17
09-12-2005, 12:33 AM
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Re: Wondering why I peel
im surprised none of you have mentioned raising the flop... its an easy raise IMO... as played check the turn like woah... take that freebie/induce a bluff.
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#18
09-12-2005, 12:42 AM
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Re: Wondering why I peel
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im surprised none of you have mentioned raising the flop... its an easy raise IMO... as played check the turn like woah... take that freebie/induce a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't say it's easy. If your free card play goes wrong, you're burning money fast. It's not like you have a flush or straight draw.
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#20
09-12-2005, 01:13 AM
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Re: Wondering why I peel
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[ QUOTE ] im surprised none of you have mentioned raising the flop... its an easy raise IMO... as played check the turn like woah... take that freebie/induce a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't say it's easy. If your free card play goes wrong, you're burning money fast. It's not like you have a flush or straight draw. [/ QUOTE ]uh, no... its exactly like that.. ???
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