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Old 09-11-2005, 03:04 AM
AtticusFinch AtticusFinch is offline
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Yeah just ran the numbers, AK vs QQ vs JJ is 37%,45%,18% respectively

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Yep, you're +cEV, barely, but no way am I taking this bet this early.
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Old 09-11-2005, 03:08 AM
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I'm just wondering how he figures AK to be a 45% winner here when it's just a bit over 36%. So you lose two and triple up once.

Let's use $10+1 as an example and 100 tournies.
36 times you have 3000 chips.
64 times you have $0 chips.

You've paid $1100 in entries. You now have 36 tries to make back that $1100. You need to win $30.55 (slightly above 2nd place) every single game just to break even.

Like I said, I'll fold all day if they turn their cards face up and both declare all in.
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Old 09-11-2005, 03:11 AM
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Well played.

Honestly, I probably call the t150 and fold to the push and hate myself for the rest of the night for calling the 150.
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Old 09-11-2005, 03:21 AM
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Well played.

Honestly, I probably call the t150 and fold to the push and hate myself for the rest of the night for calling the 150.

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You'll only flop an Ace or a king 1/3 of the time. What's more, a lower pocket pair will almost certainly not pay off an ace high flop at a $55, and probably not a king high flop.

It's a pretty easy fold preflop actually if you're playing a set number of SNGs in a day vs. a set number of hours.
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Old 09-11-2005, 05:15 AM
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It's a pretty easy fold preflop actually if you're playing a set number of SNGs in a day vs. a set number of hours.

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Out of curiosity, how does this play into it?
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Old 09-11-2005, 05:18 AM
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You'll only flop an Ace or a king 1/3 of the time. What's more, a lower pocket pair will almost certainly not pay off an ace high flop at a $55, and probably not a king high flop.

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I realize the math behind it. I was just (jokingly) commenting on how I usually misplay it.
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Old 09-11-2005, 06:32 PM
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It's a pretty easy fold preflop actually if you're playing a set number of SNGs in a day vs. a set number of hours.

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Out of curiosity, how does this play into it?

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Well, Lorinda posted a thread about how you should go all-in with AK early on if you're playing with the sole intention of increasing your hourly rate. Your ROI will decrease, but because you will fire up a new SNG as soon as you lose your coinflip, you will get more SNGs/hr. If you win your coinflip, you will have a higher chance of getting ITM.

I don't have the exact math behind it, but if you're playing a set # of hours a day, taking coinflips early should theoretically increase your hourly rate but decrease your overall ROI. Maybe we should ask Lorinda to re-post it.
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