Dumb minimum raises. - Page 2

#1 09-08-2005, 10:15 PM

I can't remember ever seeing AA or KK min raise with a bunch of limpers in the pot since I stopped playing 10c/25c NL. It's usually done with a pocket pair or suited connectors or AXs to "build a pot". Dumbest thing I've ever seen, it lets any decent player narrow down their hand range. Sometimes, if it's HU after the flop these guys will min bet as a continuation bet, and think they'll get respect.
I don't know, I feel like it's an absolutely ridiculous move. And yet people keep doing it. I see it OFTEN at the 2/4 games, do you guys get it at higher limits too? Is tehre possibly something I'm missing here?

captZEEbo1 · #2 09-09-2005, 01:44 AM

I do the min raise, I think there's plenty of value to it (if executed correctly). To make a blanket statement "it's dumb" means you obviously suck at poker. You need a bigger arsenel of tricks, my friend.

amulet · #3 09-09-2005, 01:31 PM

zeebo, given your post(s) you clearly have a poor grasp of nl. i would love a player like you in my games, except for the fact that instead of a friendly reply when you disagree, you needed to take a shot and make it personal. so instead of taking your money, i would probably end up breaking your jaw. i guess either way it would have a positive outcome.

yvesaint · #4 09-09-2005, 01:41 PM

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zeebo, given your post(s) you clearly have a poor grasp of nl. i would love a player like you in my games, except for the fact that instead of a friendly reply when you disagree, you needed to take a shot and make it personal. so instead of taking your money, i would probably end up breaking your jaw. i guess either way it would have a positive outcome.

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here we go

tom · #5 09-09-2005, 01:42 PM

I thought this type of thing only happens in the internet forum.

gus thegreatdane · #6 09-09-2005, 03:06 AM

the other day I watched a full table of people just min-raise the whole time. Pre-flop, on the flop, on the turn, and the river. it was crazy.

Dr. StrangeloveX · #7 09-09-2005, 03:18 AM

it's called limit.

Klepton · #8 09-09-2005, 05:55 AM

i think amulet is a gimmick account

it would be even awesomer if it was mike l's gimmick account

AceHiStation · #9 09-09-2005, 10:18 AM

I remember ZeeJustin posted asking about the min preflop raise when I first started on here, when I used to minraise preflop. From what I've seen, early position minraise can be a monster, but is typically JJ-66, AQ-AT, KQ. In later position I expect to see 44-TT, AJ-AT, KQ-KJ, Axs. Typically these players are trying to build a pot for their pocket pairs in case they hit sets, or try and show some aggression in case it checks to them on the flop, they can take down an easy pot. I myself thrive on these types of players and can't get enough of reraising them. Nothing better than having a pot-builder with a pocket pair looking to invest 2BBs in order to try and flop a set into a 8-10BB pot, and then having him pay 6BBs and trying to flop a set into a pot heads up against me. Just remembered an interesting hand from yesterday where I limp reraised aces, and a beautiful minraise setup the pot perfectly for me. Enjoy,
-Ace

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (10 handed) converter

CO ($298.20)
Button ($625.65)
SB ($433.25)
BB ($380.60)
UTG ($408.40)
Hero ($363)
UTG+2 ($482)
MP1 ($856.85)
MP2 ($1132.99)
MP3 ($441.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2. UTG posts a blind of $4.
Hero calls $4, 1 fold, MP1 calls $4, MP2 calls $4, 2 folds, Button raises to $8, SB (poster) calls $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $40, MP1 calls $36, MP2 folds, Button calls $32, SB calls $32.

Flop: ($168) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($168) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25, MP1 folds, Button raises to $100, SB folds, Hero calls $75.

River: ($368) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $368

Results in white below: 
BB doesn't show.
Hero has Ad Ac (one pair, aces).
Button has 9c 2c (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $368.

BobboFitos · #10 09-09-2005, 11:05 AM

no offense but your flop check sucks