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Old 09-07-2005, 11:24 AM
AbelM AbelM is offline
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Default Re: Did I overplay this?

Well since he aksed this specifically in his original post and he didn't really seem to get why this is a very easy call i thought i would try to explain it to him.

Sorry?
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:29 AM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: Did I overplay this?

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Well since he aksed this specifically in his original post and he didn't really seem to get why this is a very easy call i thought i would try to explain it to him.


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No, you are right, it's just that the post was entitled "Did I overplay this?" which really has more to do with preflop and his flop bet than the really obvious allin call.
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:30 AM
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If your worried about AQ or a set you shouldn't have bet big on the flop...maybe check and call and see if you improve. But that's something you have to be aware of before you even start the action.

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Obviously, gaining more information about your opponent's hand by his actions are perfectly acceptable. There's nothing wrong in general with making a bet and deciding to fold to a raise--it's often a good play when a scare card falls. You expect him to read his check as a set or AQ and so to check behind? Much more reasonable to read his raise as that.

In the actual hand, I think you have to call here. However, you shouldn'tve played as you did preflop. As you pointed out, the size of the raise is a little small, but the main flaw in your logic here is that the you're not likely to have the best hand--KQ is a dog to any pair and any A. By raising, you just put extra money in the pot with what's very likely to be a second best hand. In normal situations, I think the rule of never raise with KQ behind a limper is probably safe. The exceptional situations are when you're short stacked, when you think you can get significant amounts of dead money in the pot by raising, when there is only one limper and he limps significantly more frequently than he should be picking up Ax or PPs, or when you think you can make the limper fold a better hand.
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: Did I overplay this?

Overplay??? More like underplay [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Ur acting like ur hand is trash. U have a solid hand.

Folding is NO option here, unless maybe uve seen him do this move multiple times with sets etc. Im pretty sure ur against queen,10. Q,J. or most likely a flush draw.

The pot is laying u way to good of a price to lay this down. u have barely any chips anyways, without this pot ur out soon most likely. CALL and WIN [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Did I overplay this?

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He'd play a lot of hands this way.

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You understand that much, so you should understand that the large group of hands he'll play this way includes a whole lot of hands you're ahead of, not just hands you're behind.

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Old 09-08-2005, 11:47 AM
raptor517 raptor517 is offline
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Default Re: Did I overplay this?

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Don't raise KQs over 1 limper. I would limp behind, try to keep the pot small and get out of the way of heavy action.

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i actually kinda like the small raise with KQs here, making it 45 more. should do a fine job giving him the button, as well as maybe knocking out the sb and seeing the flop 3 handed, which worked quite well. caught a flop hes not getting away from all too easily. it happens, and thats the trouble with KQ. personally i hate limping with hands like that, as i want to be in position and to be the last agressor. holla
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