AA facing huge flop overbet on the 2nd hand

[Dave D]

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I love both these threads we differ on, the other being "AA in sb, bad flop". Both are VERY early and really illustrate the difference in playing styles. I've come to the conclusion that early on I'm not risking all my chips unless I have a really big hand. Typically in a field of say a 1000 players 500 are left after the first break. My goal is to have doubled up in the first hour, anything over that is gravy anything less and I'm firing big time coming into the second hour.

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How do you plan on doubling up if you're not willing to make a call when you are ahead of most hands here? How big of an advantage do YOU need to make a call? We've talked here over and over that even the top pros cannot afford to pass up a clearly +EV situation.

With the hero taking the initiative pre-flop, you'd expect a set, straight, or two pair to check-raise. This is more often than not a flush draw, overpair, or pair/straight draw.

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[fnurt]

This is a big-time call, considering it is the very start of a 30+3.

[TomHimself]

easy call

[2005]

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Yes, there's a very good chance you're ahead but do you risk it all here? Not me.

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all day, every day, and twice on Sundays. There is no fold here and you're never going to convince me differently short of him exposing a hand that beats me. This is exactly the type of situation we're looking for when we have AA. So often we get no action and now that we do get action on AA, we're not going to shy away from it. Put the chips in there and hope for no spade. There are just too few hands that he would play this way that we are beat by.

[TheBlueMonster]

call call call.

[JC_Saves]

The pot looks like 450 so he bets 2 times the pot which is the kind of bet I suspect that somebody with a flush draw might mike and a pair.

I would think that the vast majority of time you are way ahead here. You raised 9 times the big and someone who limped called you. He could be thinking that you raised with something like AK-AJ, KQ given the size of your raise PF. I think the only pair that might have called that big bet would be the 99s.

When someone bets big like that is is very scary to me, because when I have raised big preflop and someone makes this sort of move inevitably they have two pair and I am almost drawing dead, or some other hand that beats me.

I think that this would be a call given that it is such a bizarre play on this board.

[bruin]

This is an insta-call. Not even close in my book.

[gh9801]

Ok, just making sure my call was right - I have been running so bad in MTTs lately (20+ tourneys no cashes with about 6 bubbles) that I have been doubting myself a lot. In this hand villain had 78o for a flopped straight

[jcm4ccc]

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I've come to the conclusion that early on I'm not risking all my chips unless I have a really big hand. Typically in a field of say a 1000 players 500 are left after the first break. My goal is to have doubled up in the first hour, anything over that is gravy anything less and I'm firing big time coming into the second hour.

[/ QUOTE ] If your goal is to get the most entertainment value out of your tournament fee, then I guess this makes sense. Otherwise, this is terrible terrible terrible.

[tworooks]

Push preflop. Say something like "my wife is yelling at me to stop playing poker..lol " Works in the freerolls, anyways.