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Old 08-26-2005, 10:16 AM
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Default Re: 30+3 PP Level 2: Facing huge overbet with good draws

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A fold here would be ridonkulous.

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fixed..

Sorry just had to add that, as my roommates used that word all the time freshmen year. Even if he has QJ with the Jd, you still have 8 diamonds for the win and 3 jacks for the split.
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Old 08-26-2005, 11:11 AM
Pete H Pete H is offline
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Default Re: 30+3 PP Level 2: Facing huge overbet with good draws

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this is Your chance to get Your stack (least) to 1540 and eliminate 1 player, if You fold You have the smallest stack.
You cant wait any longer better chance

P.S. because You posted this, I think You folded or called and lost ?

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Being the smallest stack of 750 chips on level 2 when there'd be 2 big stacks and 4 stacks of about 800 chips (two to my left for stealing) isn't reason not to fold in any situation.

The reasons not to fold here are that it's likely you have best hand or you have correct odds to draw.

The reason I posted this was that I had to think for a while before I made my choice that felt correct. And after I made my decision I wasn't 100% sure if it was the correct one.

It was a situation I hadn't have to think before and I want to be sure that next time I'm able to do that kind of choice automatically. Helps multitabling.

I'm new to 33's, so I don't know how much I should give credit for Average Joe's ability to do second level thinking. Probably as little as at 11/22's, but I just wanted to know if more experienced players would agree with my read that I'm most likely ahead of SB's range.

What surprises me a bit is that nobody's concerned about CO. I gave a good chance (probably way too big) that he has AK, KK or AA, and had to figure out my odds if he actually calls with a best hand before I made my decision
But like I already said SB's push helped and I had correct odds to draw, so that might explain why you only keep thinking about SB.

Actually now I think that CO could fold AK here and that would be very nice.

I also need to point out that if CO would've acted before me and folded, this would've been easy call for me.

When I mentioned that 2-handed I'd fold this, I meant situation when I'd be only caller against preflop raiser and he pushed this flop in front of me. Then I'd have to give much more credit for a set or top two pair fearing draws.

PS: You still have to wait for my first bad beat post. I pushed and what happened after that is irrelevant. Only result that matters (to me) is now I'm bit more confident in my play.
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:09 PM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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Default Re: 30+3 PP Level 2: Facing huge overbet with good draws

What did he have?

It is relevant what he had as it shows if your read was right or not.

He could have had a made flush for all we know also.
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:41 PM
Pete H Pete H is offline
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Default Re: 30+3 PP Level 2: Facing huge overbet with good draws

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What did he have?

It is relevant what he had as it shows if your read was right or not.

He could have had a made flush for all we know also.

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For this discussion it's irrelevant what this opponent had as I didn't give his screenname and even for me it's unlikely that I'm against him in similar situation.

What's relevant is we seem to agree that most of the time I'm ahead here.

But as I don't think there's much to discuss anymore, I'll give you his almost unbeatable hand: Jh, Kc
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