66 standard online?

[Rick Nebiolo]

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I was thinking fold til I saw it was 6-handed. I dislike the flop raise. Raising the turn has merit. I like getting to showdown.

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It wasn't 6-handed but the villian was extremely loose-aggressive according to the stats so it probably played like a short game hand.

Don't mind mike's line but agree that flop call-turn raise has merit, thrown at least as a change-up. In my experience with this alternate line you will usually know if you are up against an overpair and slow down everything else.

~ Rick

[Clarkmeister]

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Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (6 max, 10 handed)

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[Jeffage]

I'd much rather raise the turn than the flop in this spot. The flop raise is standard BS and will be reraised by a variety of hands. By raising the turn instead (since you're committed to showdown), you may actually blow him off a hand that could river you say J10 or AK or whatever. Or maybe even a hand you beat potentially. I think the way you play it costs you the most and doesn't protect your hand at all. I've played it this way before though so I can't knock you too hard...though I usually feel disgusted afterwards.

Folding is ok against some opponents.

Jeff

[Rick Nebiolo]

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Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (6 max, 10 handed)

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Just noticed that. Note that the converter shows action for ten players, don't know if there is a flaw in header or mike typed over it. Bison-bison isn't going to work on converter anymore, nor start an August "Dear Bison" thread.

~ Rick

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Mike -
I play this the same on autopilot against this player. The raise the river suggestion is nuts, but clarkmeister (as per normal) does make a good suggestion on the turn raise, though this also tends to be the type of nut that will go 4 bets on the turn with "complete air".
I hate to admit I turn into a passive ***** on these hands after the turn but I do. As much as I hate this situation it is showing a prfoit in my stats.

[mike l.]

hi

it didnt seem close to me and i felt good about the way i played it, but after the hand started to wonder what others on here would do. so this thread was more of a private poll.

[mike l.]

"I dislike your play on every street but the river."

since i have no idea what you mean maybe you can clarify? raise? fold??

[mike l.]

yeah i like the idea of raising the turn but i dont like the idea of getting 3 bet on the turn. im showdown bound with my hand against this guy.

[Paluka]

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"I dislike your play on every street but the river."

since i have no idea what you mean maybe you can clarify? raise? fold??

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I think the preflop 3 bet with small pocket pairs is an overused play. You end up slightly ahead preflop, but if you try to play it like this postflop in the long run you lose a lot more bets when you lose than you make when you win. And sometimes he has a big hand, and you still refuse to give him credit. If I did choose to 3 bet preflop, I'd try to keep the pot small postflop because it is very difficult to ever know where I stand.
I said I liked your river play, because once you get there you obviously can't fold.

[mike l.]

misread your first post sorry. im also not huge on 3 bet preflop w/ small pairs but what led me to go this time was i had the button, blinds were able to fold, and he is way too laggro to get me off 66 here. 33 sure, but not 66.