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Old 08-24-2005, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 5-5: three-bet river bluff . . .

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huh?
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Old 08-24-2005, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 5-5: three-bet river bluff . . .

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Anyway, villain limps in EP. Three or so others come along. I tap in the SB w/ J10, BB taps.

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what's all this post-flop action, didn't you get it all in preflop?
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Old 08-24-2005, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 5-5: three-bet river bluff . . .

sorry, I just mean a suited Q type hand.
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Old 08-24-2005, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 5-5: three-bet river bluff . . .

The way I read the hand I'm fairly confident villain has a boat or quads, and he probably flopped it. My money's on 22/33.

Also, unless villain is on total air ( <10%, I think), he's never folding a hand he's raising with for 1k more.

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Old 08-24-2005, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 5-5: three-bet river bluff . . .

He did raise you quickly & confidently'...Maybe it was a good read.
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Old 08-24-2005, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 5-5: three-bet river bluff . . .

You think just a Q puts in this raise on the river? Seems fairly unlikely to be called by many worse hands. MAYYBE AQh or KQh, but he probably raises those PF.
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Old 08-24-2005, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 5-5: three-bet river bluff . . .

heh. well if just a Q raises with a read, maybe he was doing it to induce an all-in 3 bet bluff... brilliant.

in reality it is likely a full house or bluff, that's true... but some people like to slow play on draw heavy boards, i don't quite know how peter plays but aggie says he wouldn't do that...

but if you think he would lay down trips in this spot, it can work... i really see it being a fh, likely 999 though. of course i always have trouble putting people exactly on flush draws if i'm holding two of them, which is what he'd have to have. that or 45, i guess. so yeah flip a coin if it's a draw or a boat and go with a physical read. i hope though that if he flips over his boat you flip over your missed draw and start milking your TPTK for all it's worth! =)
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Old 08-24-2005, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 5-5: three-bet river bluff . . .

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if you think he would lay down trips in this spot, it can work

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Not too many hands from EP with a 3.

The fold equity of this hand is dramatically increased by the fact that hero is in the blinds, and checked PF.
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Old 08-24-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 5-5: three-bet river bluff . . .

i've played against peter (albeit not much) and think this is a horrible play. if he had a draw i think he would try for the pot earlier on. nor is he the type of a player who tries a bluff out of the blue just because his draw misses on the river. you potted the flop and he smooth called - c'mon, he has a nice hand here. plus he is a good reader and willing to try and snap off bluffs. he has no reason to be gunning for you, after you just sat down and stacked someone.

i think he's got a made hand and he just decided to sit on it and wow that was a really bad river bluff. however, since you posted it i think you're going to tell us he folds. but this is how the hand looks to me on paper.
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