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Old 08-23-2005, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: flopped set at 33

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If I want to make a weak probe bet then I prefer the flop to do it. AK should come over the top a good deal of the time.

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Really?
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: flopped set at 33

didnt you know?
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: flopped set at 33

Am I the only one betting 1/3-1/2 of the pot on the flop?

I hate giving a free card here, heads up or not.

Plus it looks like a weak bet and he may come overtop.
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: flopped set at 33

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Am I the only one betting 1/3-1/2 of the pot on the flop?

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This I like. Not 1/2 the pot, but a weak 1/3 pot size bet. (Unless of course I knew that villain could be counted upon to C-bet to the "weakness" shown by a check.)

Otherwise, I like the weak probe bet idea. The guy at least has overcards, possibly a draw with that flop. He'll at least call the flop bet, maybe raise.
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:14 PM
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If you're going to C/R the flop all-in, I like it. Otherwise, just lead.
Easy raise on the turn. Villain has overcards or AA/KK. If you lose the overs right here its not that huge a mistake. If you don't stack AA/KK on this hand you will have made a MASSIVE mistake.

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this was about my line of thinking, but my second guessing was that if the flush doesn't get there, i can c/r an overpair on the river almost every time. i can also bet out if a high card hits and get an extra bet (maybe even a push) from overs that hit a pair. if villain has a hand like JJ, i'm going to kick myself for not c/r'ing the turn, as he'll probably call the river but not get all his chips in.

if the flush does get there, i bet out and get called by AA/KK but don't stack them.

and there's some chance villain has something like KQ and i'm giving him a gutshot to stack me.

so i lose some when a flush gets there, when an overcard to villain's pair comes, or when he hits something to make a big hand. i gain when his overcards make a pair. sound about right?

also, what do people think of the turn check?
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: flopped set at 33

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He'll at least call the flop bet, maybe raise.

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i often just fold a hand like AQ there. i think others do as well.

it's pretty unlikely villain has any kind of draw.
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:18 PM
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I think that you're underestimating the number of people that wouldn't be able to let AQ go when someone bets 80 into a pot of 250 or whatever it was.

Oh, I misread the post, thought that the flop contained the 9 and the T. But still, I don't mind checking or betting weakly into the pot. Lots of people like to raise when they smell weakness.
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: flopped set at 33

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Am I the only one betting 1/3-1/2 of the pot on the flop?

I hate giving a free card here, heads up or not.

Plus it looks like a weak bet and he may come overtop.

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Yep.

Flop (t225)
You: bet t75 -- "yes! i got a piece of this rag flop"
Him: raise to t250 -- "weakazz punk!"
You: push --"ship it foo!"

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Flop (t225)
You: bet t75 -- "yes! i got a piece of this rag flop"
Him: call -- "little bastard betting into me...come oooon big cards!"

Turn (t375) - with "over" card to the rags
You: check -- "uncle. iaintgotzquat, juzfoolin"
Him: bet t300/push -- "that's right weakazz punk!"
You: push -- "ship it foo!"

Edit: Of course, an Ace on the turn would have been nicer. But many a donk are just looking for that chance to assert their PF presentation.
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:22 PM
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Yep.

Flop (t225)
You: bet t75 -- "yes! i got a piece of this rag flop"
Him: raise to t250 -- "weakazz punk!"
You: push --"ship it foo!"

-or-

Flop (t225)
You: bet t75 -- "yes! i got a piece of this rag flop"
Him: call -- "little bastard betting into me...come oooon big cards!"

Turn (t375) - with "over" card to the rags
You: check -- "uncle. iaintgotzquat, juzfoolin"
Him: bet t300/push -- "that's right weakazz punk!"
You: push -- "ship it foo!"

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I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but I couldn't have said it better myself. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:24 PM
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Flop (t225)
You: bet t75 -- "yes! i got a piece of this rag flop"
Him: raise to t250 -- "weakazz punk!"
You: push --"ship it foo!"

-or-

Flop (t225)
You: bet t75 -- "yes! i got a piece of this rag flop"
Him: call -- "little bastard betting into me...come oooon big cards!"

Turn (t375) - with "over" card to the rags
You: check -- "uncle. iaintgotzquat, juzfoolin"
Him: bet t300/push -- "that's right weakazz punk!"
You: push -- "ship it foo!"


beautiful
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