Evolution of a card room

AC poker is fine and will be fine for awhile. But go to some of the smaller casinos in the Mid-West and you will see what the fuss is about. Rarely to the get a red chip holdem game anywhere in St.Louis expect the Ameristar.

BS, capped buy NL has taken over. As for stud, lol,AC is the last place left where stud is speard at all levels all day.

So before you post maybe you should get facts str8.

[dankhank]

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BS, capped buy NL has taken over. As for stud, lol,AC is the last place left where stud is speard at all levels all day.

So before you post maybe you should get facts str8.

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stud is always going very strong at foxwoods, and will continue to do so until people start dying.

[IgorSmiles]

My facts are just fine, Jerome. Or maybe I was mistaken, and missed the fact that St. Louis was the great bastion for poker prior to the hold em boon.

[Vancity82]

An earlier poster refered to the same poker room that I go to, and yes his observations are correct. The thing you have to remember is it's summer, and no one wants to spend a sunny day inside a casino. I think come november/decemeber you'll see the rooms fill up again.

Forgort about FW. The northeast in general has good Stud action.

No your facts are not fine. Just because AC is kicking doesnt mean the whole poker world is good. Like I said check your facts, you wont a list of phone numbers to call and see if Tunica has lots of red chip games in non touney months, or how about Biloxi, or better yet small river boats in Indiana? If you play red chip games here its usually the same people ever night at the same table, no outsiders.

[9cao]

However, there are still like 10, 1/2 NL games going and 10, 2/4 or 4/8 limit games going at all times. Maybe it is just the high rollers who like to get outside?

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[J.A.Sucker]

Games always get smaller with time, as people go broke to the rake and good players. Even at 10-20, people who lose every day (500 bucks) 5 nights a week are burning through 2500 (post tax money) a night. It's not too long before you don't have anything left.

Vegas never supported regular big games - I remember that 30-60 was the biggest game every day as of about a year and a half ago, and it was a big deal when they kept an 80-160 going. People always talk about playing the big games everywhere - there just aren't that many. The only markets that can maintain a good poker base are LA and San Jose. AC and Vegas depend on tourists too much, and the games don't go around the clock. Phoenix doesn't have the disposable income, IMO. There's a lot of money in California, and lots of people willing to gamble. Even then, Commerce only has a handful of games at the 1-2 level and higher, and I don't really think that Bay 101 can sustain an 80-160 game forever, and this has been the trend for several years in this area. The big game shrinks down until the next poker boom, then it goes for awhile, but it dries up when Daddy gets divorced because he sold all of his IBM stock to play the 80 game when he said he was working late.

[IgorSmiles]

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No your facts are not fine. Just because AC is kicking doesnt mean the whole poker world is good. Like I said check your facts, you wont a list of phone numbers to call and see if Tunica has lots of red chip games in non touney months, or how about Biloxi, or better yet small river boats in Indiana? If you play red chip games here its usually the same people ever night at the same table, no outsiders.

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Youre all over the place my friend. Are you claiming that the games in Tunica and Biloxi are worse now than say 5 years ago? How about 10? I'm quite sure there is more action there now than ever before. I dont need to call small river boats in Indiana to find out what games they are spreading. A few years ago, they were spreading craps, roulette and black jack, now they have some low stakes poker. And youre complaining??

The facts are simple. There are more card games being spread now than ever before, period. The small card rooms may or may not survive, but if it wasnt for the hold em boom, they wouldnt even exist. NL is not killing the other games. If anything, it is bringing more players into the card room, some of them are discovering stud and Omaha. Some are going broke. Regardless, they wouldnt have been there at all if it wasnt for television.

You cant turn back the clock, but if you could, you'd see a few 3-6 hold em tables, a bunch of 1-5 stud and a few "high limit" card tables which wouldnt be all that high in limit.