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Old 08-20-2005, 04:36 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Whoa, I think folding AQo would be awful.

I don't, when it goes three bets and four bets behind you, you have to expect at least one and probably both hands dominate AQo. In fact, you could easily be drawing nearly dead. I think folding AQo in this sequence is very reasonable.

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But this is a CO steal situation. I'd 3bet OTB with 66+, AT+, KJ+ in this situation. BB's cap is scary but he is aggressive.
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:40 PM
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I'm capping if it's HU, but 3-way I have a tough time playing AQo here. I know the game's aggressive and the capper is perhaps overly so, but I still make the fold.
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:56 PM
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AQo and below I fold here

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Whoa, I think folding AQo would be awful.

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Is that because 15/30 plays differently? I have no idea there, but at 5/10 and below, I don't think folding AQ here would be awful. From the button, I wouldn't. But two off is far enough away, I think...

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Part of it is that the 15 is more aggressive preflop, but also this isn't an EP raising fest. When the first raiser opens from a late position everyone's hand range opens up considerably. AQ is too strong to fold in this situation IMO, even at 5/10. Not sure about limits below that.
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Old 08-20-2005, 05:08 PM
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When the first raiser opens from a late position everyone's hand range opens up considerably.

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Yeah, I'm with you on this. I might even cap the button's re-steal if it folds back to me. But 3-way and capped back to me, I can't comfortably play AQ. I would think their likely hand ranges has to include your domination (or at least your outs) too often.


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AQ is too strong to fold in this situation IMO, even at 5/10. Not sure about limits below that.

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You may be right about 5/10, I'm still relatively new there. Below that I can more confidently say it's a good fold, as re-steals don't happen nearly as often.
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Old 08-20-2005, 05:17 PM
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Fold.

This is the super-domination special.
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Old 08-20-2005, 05:24 PM
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AQo and below I fold here

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KJo is an easy fold. I can see folding AJo here, but I think AQo I'd call.
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Old 08-20-2005, 05:32 PM
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While I agree that KJo is a very easy fold here, I call with AQo given the circumstances. If button were more like a 10%+ pfr I think folding would be bad. As it is, AQo is probably close anyway and I'd muck AJo or worse.
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