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Old 08-20-2005, 12:53 AM
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Rickson is a wuss and a liar. He claims he's 400-0, even though he took a loss to some guy in a Sambo tournament back in the day. He won't fight anybody. He wouldn't fight Sak after Sak completely chumped his entire family in the ring. He counts jiu jitsu competitions from 1970's in brazil when they didn't keep records, and challenged matches as legitimate wins for his record.

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FYP

the loss you are referring to (ron tripp, '94) was because rickson didn't know the rules. He got thrown a certain way that ended the match(a la judo), but he landed it with tripp in an armbar and crying like a little bitch.

he also pwned masa funaki, a fighter who beat ken shamrock and bas rutten, when rickson was at the age of 42, which is pretty damn good.

he's looked up to as a BJJ god for a reason.

will post the list of 400 people he beat in a few days, my friend has a list somewhere

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Old 08-20-2005, 01:00 AM
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he also pwned masa funaki, a fighter who beat ken shamrock and bas rutten, when rickson was at the age of 42, which is pretty damn good.



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what was the date of the funaki fight, that's a tape that I'd love to get my hands on. It had to be in pancrase, right?
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Old 08-20-2005, 01:04 AM
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he also pwned masa funaki, a fighter who beat ken shamrock and bas rutten, when rickson was at the age of 42, which is pretty damn good.



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what was the date of the funaki fight, that's a tape that I'd love to get my hands on. It had to be in pancrase, right?

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nope, the event was called C2K Colosseum 2000... not too familiar with it
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Old 08-20-2005, 02:25 AM
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I'm unfamiliar with this. Can I rent it? What's the differnece from UFC?
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Old 08-20-2005, 03:08 AM
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RICKSON GRACIE Date of Birth: Nov.21,1959. Brazilian Lightheavyweight 7th Degree Black Belt in JuJitsu Trained by Helio Gracie.
Height: 5ft. 10inch. Weight: 185lbs.

RING RECORD: Undated Bouts: Defeated Saulo Ribiero Defeated Jamelao Defeated Aljandre Paiva Defeated Leonardo Castello Defeated Branca Defeated Tom Haezle Defeated Equada 1973: Defeated Mateo Macia(1/10)by choke(0:14) Defeated Ingnacio Paulino(1/13)by choke(0:12) Defeated Ernesto Hoau(1/16)by choke(0:21) Defeated Melio Acuna(1/19)by choke(0:16) Defeated Guillermo"Billy"Sanchez(1/23) Defeated Franco DeLaVechio(1/30) Defeated Cheyenne Riveria(2/16)by clock choke (0:09) Defeated Ed"Slim"Greene(2/21) Defeated Hans"The Great"Stachel(2/2 Defeated Raul Martinez(3/09) Defeated Poli Vasquez(3/16) Defeated Felix Polo(?)by rear mount(0:23) Defeated Hector Grazos(?)by choke Defeated Joa DaSilva(?)by choke Defeated Wilson Rodrigues(?) Defeated Eder Pires(?)by choke Defeated Ado Jua(?)by submission(1:04) Defeated Manoel Silva(?)by triangle choke(0:07) Defeated Hector Girouz(?)by clock choke(0:11) Defeated Luies Rodriguez(?)by submission(0:19) Defeated Miguel BoggWright(4/2) Defeated Fracno Rendarogue(4/6) Defeated Ted Tackman(4/13) Defeated Rouxton Grisoulyon(6/16) Defeated Andoulet Voiter(6/23) Defeated Steven Kentman(4/20) Defeated Dadari Ryomu(5/14) Defeated Frank Kentwick(7/14) Defeated Kurasetsu Nisho(9/12) Defeated Baltazar Silva Defeated Costenito Montes Defeated Benito Valdez Defeated Alejandro Melendez Defeated Tomas Chavez Defeated Jeronimo Flores Defeated Miguel Clemente Defeated Romeo Castillo Defeated Alex Cazares Defeated Jorge Pacheco Defeated Farolito Ayala Defeated Armando Castro Defeated Guillermo Guillen Defeated Jose Rosa by TKO Defeated Memo Lopez by armbar(0:0 Defeated Pajarito Rivera Defeated Raul Herrera Defeated Felipe Pinder by submission(0:10)_ Defeated Arlindo Chang by choke(0:07) Defeated Famoso Lara by triangle choke(0:16) 1974: Defeated Felix Chaez(?) by rear choke(0:14) Defeated Joa Klein(?) Defeated Luies Steiner(?) Defeated Hans Leisjua(?) by knockout Defeated Miguel Garzo(?) Defeated Eder Montes(?) Defeated Poli Hernandez(?) Defeated Chatieroux Chavez(1/3) Defeated Luies Chavez(1/10) by choke Defeated Roberto Neres(1/16) by choke Defeated Jacquim Rodrigues(1/19) by choke Defeated Nelson Danton(1/23)) by choke(0:09) Defeated Helio Miesergauez(1/30) Defeated Valintin Xavier(2/14) Defeated Romero Baltazr(2/24) Defeated German Soto(3/11) Defeated Hernon Uribe(3/19) by submission(0:17) Defeated Mauro Zenos(3/25) by submission(0:10) Defeated Bekim Tonna(3/31) by clock choke(0:13) Defeated Sergio Villegas(4/05) Defeated Ronaldo Suarza(4/12) Defeated Lachie Fernandez(4/19) Defeated Shane Cartbel((4/22) Defeated Voitier Readieson(5/17) Defeated Rougatat Jeanette(5/1) Defeated Fernando Andison(5/25) Defeated Wayami Hiho(6/7) Defeated Taisumei Futomo(7/1) Defeated Fakuyari Roso(9/26) by knockout (0:19) Defeated Brad Hedgewick(9/6) Defeated Grisenoire Rendardier(5/9) Defeated Val Xavier(10/12) Defeated Fernandeo Sawlo(10/16) Defeated Tony Dulseti(10/) Defeated Hernando Lopez(10/19) Defeated Humberto Gurreo(10/23) 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TOTAL MATCHES 410 won: 410 lost:0 draw:0
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Old 08-20-2005, 03:11 AM
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Why would Rickson fight Fedor? They're different weight classes.
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Old 08-20-2005, 03:19 AM
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was gracie the guy that would wrap his legs around you and let you punch the life out of him while gracie sits there and takes it. Then after his opponent is worn down he would try to fight?
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Old 08-20-2005, 03:33 AM
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Pride lacks the cage which makes the ground fighting better.
Pride also has red cards, or whatever color they are, which deduct 10% of a fighter's pay for inactivity during the fight.
Also, Pride allows stomps to the head of a downed opponent.
Plus, the fighters are just plain better.

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Yup... forcing action is always a good thing
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:03 AM
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Why would Rickson fight Fedor? They're different weight classes.

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rickson was always a heavyweight, a bit on the light side, and would probably cut down to 205 now a days, but he certainly was bigger then royce who would've faught at 185 in todays weight classes
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:29 AM
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That list means nothing. He's never fought anybody in MMA that has a good record. He's fought all cans with horrible losing records. Go to Sherdog and ask about your pal Rickson.
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