WSOP final table hand

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I push pre-flop.

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I love to push preflop, but with 16xBB and a hand as strong as QQ that is a terrible play.

However, if hero is so weak/tight he will check/fold any slightly dangerous flop, then pushing and getting the money in might be OK.

[betgo]

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I imagine you folded

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From Cardplayer:
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Date / Time: 2005-07-15 18:58:00
Log: Hand 36 - Tex Barch has the button in seat 3, Kondracki raises to $400,000, and Barch calls. The flop comes Kd-6s-2c, Kondracki checks, Barch bets $500,000, and Kondracki thinks long and hard before folding.


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This should definately make TV.

But congratualtions on the big payday. That is quite an accomplishment to make it so far.

[betgo]

I think the problem here is the situation. Early in an online tournament (or the WSOP ME), if you raise with QQ, get 3 callers, and a king hits, you should probably fold. Someone almost certainly has KQ, KJ, KT, or K9. There might even be a loose call with K2s.

Here you are at the final table of the WSOP against one player, who is unlikely to have called an early position raise with a king. Furthermore, the money is pretty shallow, which makes it hard to call a raise with speculative hands, and also gives you more reason to gamble that your hand is best.

[ansky451]

I had no idea you posted here.

[ZBTHorton]

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I had no idea you posted here.

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[Tyler Durden]

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I push pre-flop.

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I love to push preflop, but with 16xBB and a hand as strong as QQ that is a terrible play.



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I disagree. There's 340K in dead money to pick up here and that would increase hero's stack by nearly 20%. Also, QQ will be tough to play out of position if you're called.

[durron597]

I don't think you can fold this hand given the relative chip positions. I think your primary goal should be focusing getting the maximum out of hands that you beat at the expense of busting when you are beaten.

Thus, I c/r allin here. He probably won't fold KJ/KT but who knows, and a hand like JJ/TT probably doesn't want to overcommit to this pot?

[z32fanatic]

You pretty much can't fold this hand after committing so much preflop. I would check raise all in with an overcard because then at least he has a chance to bluff at it if he missed. If you pushed, only a King will call and all other hands you can beat would fold. If you check, 77-TT might bet at it thinking you're scared of the overcard. The % chance that he bluffs at this is significantly high (80% in my opinion) considering he probably thinks you'll be weak/tight because of the large payout jumps. I think check raising is by far the best play. If you're willing to put it all in here you have to check raise so a worse hand will put chips in. Can someone explain how pushing makes more chips in the long run than check raising?

[nopepper]

this may sound crazy but i think im calling this bet seeing a turn. I cant see folding as a real option here. I dont see what pushing solves, a worst hand will fold a better hand will call. If you call and push ANY turn, there are a bunch of scare cards that will help you on the turn. The only way I dont push the turn is if a queen or ace hit, I would then c/r all in on the turn (if he gives you the chance). If he moves all in on the turn, i think you have to fold unless you catch your queen. If he checks the turn though I would push any river.


I dont see you getting away from this hand anyway, so why not try and fck with his head.

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I thought it might be fun to discuss before I hopefully get to see Tex's hand on tv.

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I imagine you folded

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No Sherlock Holmes award for you!