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Old 08-18-2005, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: Various stories from TT\'s adventures at the Commerce - A9s vs TAG

No i don't think so. This is a fold most often (65% ?) and sometimes a raise (30%) . Call is only good very seldom. (5%)

% are out of my ass.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: Various stories from TT\'s adventures at the Commerce - A9s vs TAG

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What about the limp pf?

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Perfect in a passive live game, good in any game except a really tight aggressive one?

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This is normally a raise or fold hand for me. I don't like limping with A9s, nearly ever. Maybe a large-field complete, fine. But with position and a big filed I'd raise for value/initiative. IN EP if I'm playing, its a raise.

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I guess OP changed it to an offsuit ace. Limping suited midaces is perfectly fine in loose games, raising is bad. Given the table descriptions here, I think limping with an offsuit ace is fine too. Raising is bad I think. You're not getting rid of players, and having the initiative against these people can be more bother than it's worth sometimes.

There are times when it's good and normal to limp in EP...
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: Various stories from TT\'s adventures at the Commerce - A9s vs TAG

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No i don't think so. This is a fold most often (65% ?) and sometimes a raise (30%) . Call is only good very seldom. (5%)

% are out of my ass.

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Are we talking about an offsuit or suited ace? (I thought it was the latter before OP fixed it)
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: Various stories from TT\'s adventures at the Commerce - A9s vs TAG

Now that it's been edited my raise leans towards a fold.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: Various stories from TT\'s adventures at the Commerce - A9s vs TAG

I'm talking about offsuit. Suited is a different matter. I would think raising would be most likely, followed by calling then folding. with R/C quite above F
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: Various stories from TT\'s adventures at the Commerce - A9s vs TAG

For most tables I believe this is the way to go.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: Various stories from TT\'s adventures at the Commerce - A9s vs TAG

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For most tables I believe this is the way to go.

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Old 08-18-2005, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: Various stories from TT\'s adventures at the Commerce - A9s vs TAG

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I'm talking about offsuit. Suited is a different matter. I would think raising would be most likely, followed by calling then folding. with R/C quite above F

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My PF raising numbers are always ahead of what I see everyone else post, but not from EP. What hands do people here limp with if ever? Seems like everyone advocates only limping in LP after a large field. A suited ace or a mid/low pocket pair in a passive field wants either lots of or no action. Some tables you're just not going to often get the latter, so I don't see why raising is a good idea. Given a loose live table (even online it seems bad to me, just not as bad), raising a weaker suited ace is begging for trouble imo.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: Various stories from TT\'s adventures at the Commerce - A9s vs TAG

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I'm talking about offsuit. Suited is a different matter. I would think raising would be most likely, followed by calling then folding. with R/C quite above F

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I agree, but the thread is titled A9s, so I'm pretty sure he was suited and mistyped.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: Various stories from TT\'s adventures at the Commerce - A9s vs TAG

I'm not sure what your hand was. If it was suited I'd raise, if it was offsuite I'd probably raise but maybe fold--I'd never call.

Postflop, call down.
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