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Old 08-18-2005, 11:33 PM
Rick Nebiolo Rick Nebiolo is offline
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One is reminded of the story Krushchev used to tell about himself.

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Krushchev was a character. I can't imagine growing up when we did and not knowing what he looked like and at least sort of what he was doing on the world stage. It seems to me there aren't too many world leaders in the same category these days.

I assume this story came from one of the thousand plus biographies you've read. Are there any you would say are good reads (although I need to read American Sphinx next)?

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Old 08-19-2005, 12:08 AM
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"This thread was written for the sole purpose of illustrating that there is a very fuzzy line between sins of omission and commision. It had nothing to do with you. As far as you going to heaven is concerned, I already SAID that you were."

I should have put a [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] after my comment. There is indeed a fuzzier line than most would admit, but I don't think it's as fuzzy as you do.

FWIW, I am much happer you SAID I could go to heaven than if Not Ready's god SAID I could. Going to His heaven would be pure hell.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:12 AM
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"FWIW, I am much happer you SAID I could go to heaven"

Would, not could.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:14 AM
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Last post on this, so as not to hijack. Krushchev might have been a character, but he was not to be underestimated. He came through Salin's time and ended up leading the country. He had to be one tough bastard.

If you're reading one book on Jefferson, American Sphinx is pretty damn good. Fawn Brodie's biography is also good as is the recent Jefferson's Secrets by Andrew Burstein.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:16 AM
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"'FWIW, I am much happer you SAID I could go to heaven'

Should, not could. "

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Old 08-19-2005, 12:24 AM
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Profiting from a death does not a murderer make. Ask any mortician.

If someone steals my checkbook and cleans out my bank account by writing checks to "Save the Children Foundation" and I find out and get my money back from the charity, I am not a murderer and neither would Andy Fox be one if he wanted his money back.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:32 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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"Profiting from a death does not a murderer make. Ask any mortician."

Stupid comment. I was talking about allowing a death to occur that, while under no legal obligation to save, you and almost everybody else would have most certainly saved, if there wasn't so much profit in not doing it.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:53 AM
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Stupid comment.

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Ouch, but I'll get over it.

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I was talking about allowing a death to occur that, while under no legal obligation to save, you and almost everybody else would have most certainly saved, if there wasn't so much profit in not doing it.

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Yes, and that was what the rest of my post was about. Andy does nothing wrong in getting his money back. It is his money, same as if it was in his pocket. I don't know who would call his actions homicide for money. In this case, IMHO, Omission and Commission are the same and neither are a sin.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:57 AM
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FWIW, I am much happer you SAID I could go to heaven than if Not Ready's god SAID I could. Going to His heaven would be pure hell.

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why exactly would this be so
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:14 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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"Yes, and that was what the rest of my post was about. Andy does nothing wrong in getting his money back."

I agree. But guess what? ANDY WOULDN'T TRY TO GET HIS MONEY BACK. And neither would a lot of other people.
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