Just want to hear some thoughts on this hand...

[KDawgCometh]

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did it occur to you to raise for a free showdown on the turn?


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with a CR. do you think a lag might bet the river when checked to anyway

[peterchi]

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What does everyone think of betting the river? I think it is probably wrong, but ...

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Since he's a LAG, I think we just wanna give him a chance to fire one more shot. He'll raise with a K, but maybe also with a worse hand than Hero. So we can't bet-fold, but I wouldn't be too happy about calling the raise regardless.

Is this about what you were thinking anyways?

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What does everyone think of betting the river? I think it is probably wrong, but ...

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Since he's a LAG, I think we just wanna give him a chance to fire one more shot. He'll raise with a K, but maybe also with a worse hand than Hero. So we can't bet-fold, but I wouldn't be too happy about calling the raise regardless.

Is this about what you were thinking anyways?

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These were my thoughts.

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PS. Update your blog.

-d

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Yeah..need to do that.

Octopus: I'll put a goad update in there as well.

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Postflop is perfect, though did it occur to you to raise for a free showdown on the turn?

What about a pre-flop 3bet?

-d

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I'm OOP here...

The 3 bet PF did occur to me, but I thought it prudent to just make a call there and go from there. If an ace fell (depending on the rest of the board), I probably would have taken the call, call, bet line.

[shant]

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What does everyone think of betting the river? I think it is probably wrong, but ...

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This was my intial thought too. Bet/call the river, but I guess he's LAG enough to bet any pair on the river? It would suck if it checked through.

[peterchi]

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I like it.

I don't know about a preflop 3-bet. If he was raising in a more obvious stealing position then definitely. But OOP I prefer to just call.

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I agree that it sucks that we're OOP. But this is a separate argument (and perhaps a better one) from the statement that he's in a non-"obvious stealing position." A raise from a 32/16 from MP3 tells me that his range includes a ton of hands that are worse than ours. When he's this aggressive, it's basically the same thing as a steal.

I'm not sold on a 3-bet, but I think it needs to be strongly considered.

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What does everyone think of betting the river? I think it is probably wrong, but ...

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This was my intial thought too. Bet/call the river, but I guess he's LAG enough to bet any pair on the river? It would suck if it checked through.

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After he bet the turn, I didn't think any card in the deck would make him check the river. So much so that if I filled up, I would have c/red.

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did it occur to you to raise for a free showdown on the turn?


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with a CR. do you think a lag might bet the river when checked to anyway

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My fault, I thought this was call, call, call.

I like it the whole way postflop.

-d

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I don't understand why we're not raising anywhere for value against a PF raiser with a relatively wide range of hands and 2.5 post-flop aggression.

This isn't being sarcastic, I just literally don't understand. Please help.