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Old 08-17-2005, 06:37 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default Re: Weird river raise I made with TPTK on a horrible board

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The real reason I raised here is because I thought SB was capable of folding a straight here if it was 2 bets back to him. Not sure if that adds enough value.

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If SB was capable of this, wouldn't he have value bet the river?

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I don't see how these things follow. Can you explain? If he wants to get to showdown cheaply, why would he bet? Unless he got less worried when the turn checked around.
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Old 08-17-2005, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: Weird river raise I made with TPTK on a horrible board

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The real reason I raised here is because I thought SB was capable of folding a straight here if it was 2 bets back to him. Not sure if that adds enough value.

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If SB was capable of this, wouldn't he have value bet the river?

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I don't see how these things follow. Can you explain? If he wants to get to showdown cheaply, why would he bet? Unless he got less worried when the turn checked around.

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I think any player that is capable of folding one of the crappier straights in this hand to 2 bets on the river, would value bet himself after the turn checked through. Worse hands will call him.

So, given my statement above, if he has a weak straight, this player will be incapable of folding it. You are not going to prevent him from overcalling.
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Old 08-17-2005, 06:46 PM
alul alul is offline
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Default Re: Weird river raise I made with TPTK on a horrible board

BB bets into the preflop raiser, he is not afraid of the K. Unless he is a habitual bluffer, he's got a hand. I'm making a crying call here, hoping for SB overcall but I'm not expecting to win this pot very often.
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Old 08-17-2005, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Weird river raise I made with TPTK on a horrible board

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If SB wiffed a turn CR, do you really think he would check the river?

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Yeah. Brain fart by me. Nonetheless, my point that any time sb calls it means hero just lost an extra bet remains true.
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