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Old 08-17-2005, 06:08 PM
Big Limpin' Big Limpin' is offline
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Default Re: An annoying STT tactic

I am often that "annoying" villain. You run out of gas...i inherit the pot (upon a checked turn). You fire 2nd barrel, i now only call you if i stack up well.

I agree with you that 25/50 --> 100/200 levels of SnGs get awkward to play OOP strongly, b/c the pf and flop bets have built a t300-t700 pot whereby whomever makes the first meaningful turn bet has committed himself.

Is there a obvious solution to this? I dont think so. Perhaps the best you can do is tailor your bet sizes to control/distort pot sizes leading into this situation.

Perhaps the most usuful part of this post (and the whole thing was good) is simply the acknowledgement that you, me, and most others keep puting ourselves in this spot. And from there, the deduction that if that spot sucks for the aggressor, then it must not be so bad for the caller.

Bluff calls = Firewalking
Firewalking = Possible disaster, but fun times
ergo...

Its a strong play, but one where you will lose bits of your stack most times, and all of it once in a while. But overall, i think if you have some semblance of postflop play, you can pay for this and more with the pots you pick up.

Preconditions:

-you have average/above average stack
-you are IN POSITION with respect to the original agressor
-you wont get check/called allin by 2 overs that beat you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

as for any play, the EV can only increase if you have more outs. Bluff-calling with rags probably isnt too EV, might be negEV even, but even a gutshot will swing the odds more in your favor. Extrapolate this up the ranks to OESD, 4flush, TP/gutshot, etc...

BL' - Still on hiatus, but 14 days w/o 2+2 made me "too weak" (rimshot) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:19 PM
fnord_too fnord_too is offline
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Default Re: An annoying STT tactic

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BL' - Still on hiatus, but 14 days w/o 2+2 made me "too weak" (rimshot) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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That hurts more than the described tactic...
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