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Old 08-17-2005, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: is this a horrible play?

i apologize, and will rephraze it to "weak"
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Old 08-17-2005, 03:14 AM
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i agree.
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Old 08-17-2005, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: is this a horrible play?

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am i being way too weak?

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Yes
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Old 08-17-2005, 07:54 AM
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I agree, a cap on the turn may be bad. I think I still bet the river(he may check with no reads). Can anyone provide odds on flopping 4 of a kind vs. someone having a pocket pair?

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I think the odds against floping quads is about 1:8300 (provided you start with an unpaired hand). The odds against being dealt a pocket pair are a bit better than 1:15. This can be a bit misleading, however, because given that the flop IS JJJ, the likelyhood of him having a J is about 0.043, or 1:22.

But I also think the fact that he coldcalled preflop should make us more inclined to put him on a pocket pair below QQ. These are some of the hands people coldcall the most with. Sure, he could also have AJs or JTs, but I find it less likely.
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:02 AM
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I dont think 1 person in 100 would raise a bet on their right with quads on the flop at .25/.50. I'd get a little to a lot more aggressive.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: is this a horrible play?

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am i being way too weak?

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Yup. Button didn't raise preflop, and didn't cap when it was heads-up on the flop. I'm putting him on AA/KK/Jx about 0% of the time here.

3-bet the turn, lead the river. Don't get tricky with a monster, pound that effer over the head with it.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:39 AM
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...and then when he flips over 33 you can laugh and laugh and laugh.
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