Maybe a simple turn decision?

[golferbrent]

Your decisions are easy... raise, call, or fold. Well maybe your decisions are not so simple:

Since you have no reads on the players and it is a shorthanded game... the button raise can easily mean alot of different things. It could be the button is making a play on the original raiser or it could mean that he has made a good hand but not a strong hand.

I think that a fold is definitely out of the question. I think you have to 3 bet here and see what happens. The button could easily make this play with a a-q,k-q,q-j, q-10 type of hand. In a short-handed game like this that is new... I don't think the requirements for making this play on the turn are that great.

Overall, I think this is definitely a hand that you need to get to the showdown. I think the play is to make it 3 bets and see what develops.

[PokerBob]

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What are my choices?

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IMO, there is only one.

[BWebb]

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Semi-hijack re: the flop peel. Are you peeling there if the board is rainbow but you don't have the backdoor clubs? If it's two-toned with no clubs? I am starting to wonder if I am too tight with my flop non-peels.

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He's getting 10-1 closing the action with 5 outs that are most likely clean, not to mention backdoor straight and flush draws. Easy flop call.

[ggbman]

i would 3 bet, b/c you usually have the best hand here and will sometimes get a call from UTG with an overpair. The button's raise could mean anything from hearts, to a good queen, to a free showdown raise, so charge em both and 3 bet. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[PokerBob]

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How about 3 bet and punch monitor if 4 bet?

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I prefer, three bet and throw monitor in pool if four bet, if that option is available

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no no no....[censored] is said if 4-bet....monitor makes it to pool if we lose

[ike]

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How about 3 bet and punch monitor if 4 bet?

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I prefer, three bet and throw monitor in pool if four bet, if that option is available

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you idiot. if you throw the actual box in the pool you get a disconnect protect. this is clearly the right play.

[catlover]

Well the button did cold call preflop. So he can't be a great player.

You have every reason to believe you are ahead of UTG. Unclear if you are ahead of the button or not. Based on this, I think folding is out of the question.

If you 3- bet, and button 4-bets, I think you have to pay it off. He's bad, and you have no way of telling if he is on a set or a flush draw.

But you want to 3-bet to knock out UTG.

So I think it's close between 3-betting and calling down, or just cold calling the raise.

[Schneids]

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Well the button did cold call preflop. So he can't be a great player.

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This is an untrue statement.