9/18 AA Hand

[W. Deranged]

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I like betting and calling a single raise but folding to a raise and an overcall.

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The overcall doesn't matter. SB has AK like always and you have the Ad.

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That's a good point. SB's hand is very likely to be AK given the action.

What about the protected pot effect here? I don't see getting raised by MP on the river with anything short of trips, and I think the likelihood of a bluff is mitigated by the presence of the third player in the pot (who appears to be a calling station based on current action).

This doesn't directly have to do with whether an overcall matters, but it is an important consideration. Should this point us in the direction of a fold, regardless of whether we get overcalled?

[jason_t]

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if mp raises, what the hell does he have that doesn't have a Q in it?

not saying i'd fold, because i can't fold AA on the river for one bet, but I can't think we're ahead enough.

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I didn't bother making the decision that complicated. I know sometimes he'll call with a worse hand, but when you check and he bets you can be pretty damn sure that you're beaten.

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So why not check/fold?

[W. Deranged]

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if mp raises, what the hell does he have that doesn't have a Q in it?

not saying i'd fold, because i can't fold AA on the river for one bet, but I can't think we're ahead enough.

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I didn't bother making the decision that complicated. I know sometimes he'll call with a worse hand, but when you check and he bets you can be pretty damn sure that you're beaten.

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So why not check/fold?

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How can you honestly check-fold here? When checked to on the river a hand like KJ could totally bet here.

And worse hands will call the river bet.

[sfer]

Because you'll get raised rarely by trips with the the board paired and a flush showing where a very likely hand for you is KK, because you're guaranteed at least second place, and because I hate missing bets.

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I don't like bet/folding on the river my first hand in a session, but that's just me.

[W. Deranged]

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I don't like bet/folding on the river my first hand in a session, but that's just me.

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Yeah, that occured to me. I mentioned in an earlier post that I think folding the river here in an circumstance (except maybe if it's bet-raise-check-reraise) is going to put a big bullseye on your head.

[intheflatfield]

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Live poker is rigged.

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I agree, I was playing live the other day and someone called me to the river with 72o and the only way they could have done that is if they knew the what the next card could be.

I've talked to a lot of other people who have had the same experience as I have. I think someone should look into theses serious allegations. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[jason_t]

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if mp raises, what the hell does he have that doesn't have a Q in it?

not saying i'd fold, because i can't fold AA on the river for one bet, but I can't think we're ahead enough.

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I didn't bother making the decision that complicated. I know sometimes he'll call with a worse hand, but when you check and he bets you can be pretty damn sure that you're beaten.

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So why not check/fold?

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How can you honestly check-fold here? When checked to on the river a hand like KJ could totally bet here.

And worse hands will call the river bet.

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What do you put SB and MP on?

I bet/call.

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I bet/call.

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Idiot! Why do I always have to talk you out of harebrained ideas? Check/fold.