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Old 08-04-2005, 07:02 PM
POKhER POKhER is offline
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Default Re: River Decision.

The only query i have is the Flop 3 bet
Raising flush draws is only profitable when you have a EQUITY EDGE.

Here your headsup, you pit in 50% of the money and win 35% of the time. You therefore have no edge, which means its unprofitable.

You do however have odds to call/bet providing you dont get raised(which you did).

The river i would check call, or call a 3bet maximum. The board has paired meaning a set/some two pairs will have now got a full house.

I expect you check/raised and lost this hand.
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: River Decision.

I was gonna say bet, but after reading some responses it appears that check/call might be the right answer.

Maybe I should have grunched this post.
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: River Decision.

Even if there were 4 ppl in the pot, I still don't like the 3 bet, simply because it makes people call 2 cold. Fish love to call (1 bet), why not let em?
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: River Decision.

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Even if there were 4 ppl in the pot, I still don't like the 3 bet, simply because it makes people call 2 cold. Fish love to call (1 bet), why not let em?

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Because if they call one, they might be making a correct call, but if they call 2 they are making a mistake?
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: River Decision.

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Why would you call my 3-bet on the flop "gay" ?

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Because he doesn't have the vocabulary to use a more appropriate word.


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Nice unprovoked cockamamie personal attack.
This happens to be the most supercilious thing I've heard on this forum.
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: River Decision.

I wasn't expecting a round of applause for something that wasn't intended to be "clever", so get over yourself.
Jesus H. - when did this forum become the ACLU?
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: River Decision.

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Here your headsup, you pit in 50% of the money and win 35% of the time. You therefore have no edge, which means its unprofitable.

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Seriously, I think think this is the first time I really understand equity.
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: River Decision.

Hmm, what could they be drawing to that would be a mistake folding at those odds? When you have a draw like this, you want as many people in as possible - it doesn't matter what they are drawing to, because you will most likely have the nuts if you make your flush (and they ain't gonna fold a set anyway). So, raising to "protect your hand" is pointless at this point - the more people, the merrier. This is also why people check raise a bet to their left, once they get 3 callers to trap - because you win 35% of the time, and are putting in less than 35% of the money, every bet that goes in makes you $$$, and the more the merrier.
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: River Decision.

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Here your headsup, you pit in 50% of the money and win 35% of the time. You therefore have no edge, which means its unprofitable.

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Seriously, I think think this is the first time I really understand equity.

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Learn this lesson well grasshopper.
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: River Decision.

Glad to help mate, It got me very confused at first. I still sometimes screw up and misapply it.

Remember not to go psycho if you have a nice edge on flush draws, you want the callers to stay. Making them face cold calling lots of bets(So they fold) is bad.
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