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Old 08-03-2005, 02:34 PM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

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no it was in reference to OP, although openpushing is not nearly the best line here.

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What is the Hero going to do when someone goes all-in over the top of him?
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

when?
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

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What is the Hero going to do when someone goes all-in over the top of him?

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Do you open-push every time you get AA dealt to you?
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

the 'gamble' you took was PF

you didn't open-push because you wanted action.
you raised 1/3 your stack (4x) to get said 'action'.
you correctly reasoned, that with 2 callers behind you, this flop may not be favorable.

you need to be cognisant of you FULL intentions post flop, when making your PF move (in regards to your raise):

a) "all my chips are going in - period. i just want more chips in the pot first"
b) "i'm going to raise here, hopefully taking down a nice pot on the flop"

[side note: i'm not advocating [A] at all]

comparing A & B to your PF raise size, you can see how niether really fits. regardless if it's your intent to "go broke or double/triple up" or "see a flop...get out alive if it doesn't work out", the 1/3-your-stack-4x isn't accomplishing either for you.

if you're not going to open-push, a raise of t125-150 fits both of your post flop options. you'll get some 'action', and it leaves you an exit with some chips intact.

for the record, i'd just open-push. a standard raise + an increase in blinds, leaves you only 5BB. furthermore, with the likelyhood of being out of position against one or more of your callers, your post-flop options are slim to none (check/fold....push) on an unfavorable flop like this.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

well theres a huge difference between AA and QQ and this flop illustrates it...
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

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well theres a huge difference between AA and QQ and this flop illustrates it...

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What the hell are you talking about?
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

disregard my response above, I confused threads.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

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well theres a huge difference between AA and QQ and this flop illustrates it...

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What the hell are you talking about?

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Can you flop an A holding AA and be in trouble?
Can you flop an A holding QQ and be in trouble?

I'm pretty sure that is the difference he is talking about.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

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well theres a huge difference between AA and QQ and this flop illustrates it...

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What's he trying to get at, don't open push QQ because of possible risks?
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:53 PM
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well theres a huge difference between AA and QQ and this flop illustrates it...

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What's he trying to get at, don't open push QQ because of possible risks?

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I hope not!
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