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the one hansen called with in.. it was a free roll tourney and just from opportunity cost alone, that tourney was -EV for him based on the pay outs. [/ QUOTE ] So why did he enter? |
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"There are stories about great calls Stuey made, but I haven’t heard any about great laydowns." -Barry Greenstein (in his player analyis of Ungar at barrygreenstein.com) I think this sums up a lot of the romanticism that surrounds Stuey. So, is this really a great read, or just one of the few times he made an atrocious call, and was lucky enough to be right? [/ QUOTE ] Paul Phillips made a similar point to Greenstein, either here or on his blog. ~ Rick |
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insane story, i love reading stuff like this. something that i find disappointing in modern tournaments is that you never see any of the pros calling an allin bet with something ridiculous like ten high. [/ QUOTE ] Calling all-in preflop with T-high doesn't count, but Kirill Gerasimov called a substantial river push with T6 unimproved. WPT forum thread Good commentary by limon on this angle. |
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You dont win 3 world championships making these calls when you are wrong!
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Yeah, I actually looked for it, because I believe Paul Phillips said it a bit more emphatically than Greenstein, but I couldn't find it. Nonetheless, I think it's safe to say that many respected people in the poker world think that Stu Ungar being the greatest caller of bluffs is pretty much total bunk, and is more or less a direct result of his incapacity to fold. And I don't remember the exact quote, but Doyle also said about his 1980 WSOP victory, that had he run into a hand that beat top pair, he'd have never made it to the final table.
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Hansen called Antonio's all in with a ten high in one of the WPT events. [/ QUOTE ] Just like Stuey I have never heard from any great Hansen laydowns either. The guy always seems to call when he has more than zero outs. |
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Just about every pro who watched Stuey play says that he was unstoppable when he was getting cards, and awful when he wasn't. An aggressive, unbluffable player will do well in tournaments, but poor in cash games. This is a pretty good assessment of Stu Unger's career.
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Hansen called Antonio's all in with a ten high in one of the WPT events. [/ QUOTE ] He called with 8Ts preflop when I believe he was pot-committed and the chip leader. |
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if you want that story plus tons others and an incredible read i suggest you check out nolan dolla's book on stuey that just came out. its fantastic and addicting, you will read it in one sitting. the hand you mention and whiskeytown mentioned are both in the book.
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Actually, it was a cash game, which makes it even more bad-ass. He was playing a 50k$ freezeout against the guy.
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