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Old 07-31-2005, 09:56 PM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 AA line...

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I open UTG+2 for 200 with black AA, tilted too loose player who just lost a big pot calls with 1.5k behind, Rock with 5k behind who hasn't played a hand in a while makes it 600 to go, I call, tilted calls.

Flop comes Q44r

I check, planning to go for the check-raise, checked around.

Turn 7

I lead for 700, tilted folds, rock calls.

At this point what range of hands do you put rock on?

River is a T

Hero? How much do you bet here?

Potential rock holdings, AA/KK/QQ/JJ/AK, I can't put him on anything else

In a previous hand, I called a raise from him after someone else with KQs on the button, flop came 953 and I called his 450 bet. the turn was a 3 and I picked up a heart draw, he lead for 800 and I moved in for 2.5k, he thought and folded. So I'm thinking a move in on this board might be called?

I realize this is probably really boring for most of you, I just would like a good number on this river, there is about 3k in the pot, I have about 3k left and he covers...

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I would bet $1500-it seems like a cheap steal after you "come alive" after the flop gets checked around. There's no way he has you on AA right now, so he'll likely pay off w/AQ and JJ and push w/KK.
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Old 07-31-2005, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 AA line...

I dont think a rock would reraise AQ nor pay him off on this board.

I say he has QQ or KK. Im leaning more towards QQ. I think KK bets this flop.
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 AA line...

He's tight, but I guess rock is the wrong word. I don't see him ever splash around, but I think he would reraise with position with AKs...AQs Probably not.
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 AA line...

I've played 25/50 before, but you'd have to add a few decimals, so my advice might be crappy. Anyway, I think I bet $1800-$2000. I don't want to bet big and get Kings to fold fearing QQ, and I don't want to bet huge into QQ. Kinda acts as a reasonable value bet and a blocker. If tight player raises, I fold.

How would you bet this with Queens?
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:38 PM
LethalRose LethalRose is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 AA line...

if you're folding to a large raise, how about check calling a decent sized bet.
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 AA line...

did you think of check-calling?

if he has QQ, i don't think there is any way he puts you in given the way you played the hand so far

if he has KK and you check you risk losing value if he checks behind

if he has JJ he might bet if checked and but fold to a bet
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 AA line...

the only problem with betting ~2k is he is pot stuck if he raises
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 AA line...

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how about check calling a decent sized bet.

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I like this. I doubt so called Rock reraises with less than Queens. Aces are unlikely, Kings are likely, as are Queens. Queens will raise your bet, and I think Kings will bet more often than they call.
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:46 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 AA line...

Yeah, I didn't really look at stack sizes. I still really don't think you can be potstuck here if this guy reraises. I think it's automuck. I like the check-call of a reasonable amount.
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Old 07-31-2005, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 AA line...

seems like he prob has KK the vast majority of the time here, so bet as much as you think he will call... seems like he could easily get off if you moved in, so i like betting 1200-1500 here to try to squeeze out value.
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