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Old 07-28-2005, 07:27 PM
BreakfastBurrito BreakfastBurrito is offline
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Default Re: learning to lay down hands: hand #1

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The first step is letting go of your ego at the table.

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Even if you were wrong kudos on sticking to your read and not chickening out on the river.

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Believing that you can read someone for a set with >93% accuracy given the action in this hand is probably also a good example of letting your ego get in the way.
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Old 07-28-2005, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: learning to lay down hands: hand #1

man, that's giving villain a hell of a lot of credit... based on the utg 22 and the hand w/ his 44, doesn't it seem like he's pretty much playing/falling in love with his own hands and not giving much thought to others' holdings? and in my experience, a check-raise on the turn in most live games usually signifies a flopped monster... i might be wrong w/ that, though...
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Old 07-28-2005, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: learning to lay down hands: hand #1


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tongni,
read on villain isn't that he's a LAG, it's that he overplays his pocket pairs. if he was a LAG, i'd have called him down w/o hesitation.

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and in another hand he reraised my utg raise w/ 44, raised my bet on a 976 flop and bet the whole way (i had tt).


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He sounds a little aggressive to me. This is an awesome fold and you can buy yourself a fruit plate and pat yourself on the back until the one time when you muck, he shows QQ, smirks, and says "Had the best hand all along."
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Old 07-28-2005, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: learning to lay down hands: hand #1

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you're a moron.

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Old 07-28-2005, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: learning to lay down hands: hand #1

How 'bout A3 hearts w/ the turned flush draw, (if he did show you the 3 hearts that is)

even if he did in fact have 33 here, it doesn't mean its a good fold. he probably had you beat, yeah, but no way can you be that sure.
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Old 07-28-2005, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: learning to lay down hands: hand #1

I think it is a bad fold. Your hand only has to be good one time out of 15 to make the call correct. Moreover, if you fold, you can't show the King. By showing the King, you'll encourage players to start running over you.
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Old 07-28-2005, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: learning to lay down hands: hand #1

This fold sucks against anybody but a super-rock which the opponent you described is not. Also, for God's sake, if you're going to make this fold, don't show it to anybody.

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Old 07-28-2005, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: learning to lay down hands: hand #1

I think you are trying to outsmart your opponents here more than you are trying to play good poker. I get tempted to do this at times. These spots are so frustrating when you "know" he is gonna show you a boat/better king every time. But the truth is you just can't be that sure.
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:24 PM
KramerTM KramerTM is offline
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Default Re: learning to lay down hands: hand #1

On a positive side... I do like where your thinking is at. You're putting Villain on a range of hands and trusting it. However, you can't just throw everything we know about pot odds out of the window. I can't imagine calling on the river here is -EV. I can imagine folding on the river here being very -EV.
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:46 PM
JihadOnTheRiver JihadOnTheRiver is offline
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Default Re: learning to lay down hands: hand #1

i get it...you were drunk and thought you were playing NL and making a "huge laydown". hope you quickly corrected your mistake...
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