Super Tuesday hand

[DarrenX]

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You're gonna have to post the results to this one at some point. My prediction is that he had a 5 in his hand, you were ahead until the river, and you won't be going back to McDonalds for awhile.

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He had 85o for a flopped 2-pair rivered full. I figured quite incorrectly he was trying to buy the pot with a missed draw, and had also put me on a missed draw with my calls.

I agree that if I had raised the flop a reraise would get me off the hand sooner than later, but do I want that? Then again, the way I played it, I really didn't get any information.

Luckily, my McDonald's didn't make a repeat appearance, but it was close. Do you see why?

[DarrenX]

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If he reraises, it should be big, and you can let go, knowing he has a big overpiar/straigt/trips/two pair. I'd let my gutshot/one pair go to that range.


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With a gutshot and top pair I would lean towards a raise on the flop. With what I had (OESD and Tp) I still lean towards a call.

[DemonDeac]

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I raise the flop to try to win a free turn.

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[z32fanatic]

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I raise the flop to try to win a free turn.

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[locutus2002]

I don't like the position that hero is in.

You dropped T1400 chips into a pot without having any idea where you were at. I'm not sure its possible to make a good call or laydown at the river.

I might raise the flop to T325, if he has a hand he won't want to give any free draws on this board.

[z32fanatic]

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If he reraises, it should be big, and you can let go, knowing he has a big overpiar/straigt/trips/two pair. I'd let my gutshot/one pair go to that range.


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With a gutshot and top pair I would lean towards a raise on the flop. With what I had (OESD and Tp) I still lean towards a call.

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I don't really understand that. Are you suggesting that a gutshot and top pair is weak so you would want to raise and maybe take it down right there? TP + OESD is a good hand, but is still very vulnerable. In this case he obviously wouldn't have folded to a raise, but someone might fold an 8 with a better kicker. Also, he may be on the draw as well so why not charge him for it. I would like to hear why you would raise with a gutshot but call with an OESD.

[cferejohn]

I don't like the limp. However, it worked out for you here, as you get to play it with position. If you knew the bettor was an aggressive player, I think the rope-a-dope is ok. The flop call is OK, since you have a draw and you don't want to be pushed off of it, but I wouldn't hate a raise either. I'd raise the turn to 600 or so to see if he is serious about it.

Other than the preflop limp, I think your line was reasonable, but a little weak.

[DarrenX]

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If he reraises, it should be big, and you can let go, knowing he has a big overpiar/straigt/trips/two pair. I'd let my gutshot/one pair go to that range.


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With a gutshot and top pair I would lean towards a raise on the flop. With what I had (OESD and Tp) I still lean towards a call.

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I don't really understand that. Are you suggesting that a gutshot and top pair is weak so you would want to raise and maybe take it down right there? TP + OESD is a good hand, but is still very vulnerable. In this case he obviously wouldn't have folded to a raise, but someone might fold an 8 with a better kicker. Also, he may be on the draw as well so why not charge him for it. I would like to hear why you would raise with a gutshot but call with an OESD.

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Okay- This hand (W/OESD) I believe is similar to TPFAP's example about having TpTk w/a flush draw on the turn after you had bet initially and been called in two places. You should not bet the turn to open up the betting when you have a decent hand and good draw where you'd hurl if you got check-raised.

With an OESD, my draw is solid, and I have a hand that may be winning, with decent potential to be a very good hand. With a gut shot, I have 4 less outs, making the possibility of this hand becoming premium much less- so if reaised, I can more confidently muck because I'll know my current hand is beat and didn't squander big potential.

Anyone with me?

[DarrenX]

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Other than the preflop limp,

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