44 BB bubble - Page 2

AliasMrJones · #11 07-27-2005, 03:07 PM

I've been bitten by people pseudo-slowplaying things like AT who call and bust me out, but if he's shown a limp is a weak limp I push.

Does anyone like stop-n-go?

Unarmed · #12 07-27-2005, 03:36 PM

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Stop f*cking around.

durron597 · #13 07-27-2005, 03:38 PM

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No, the stop-n-go is only for times when you have no preflop FE (which is clearly not the case here).

Unarmed · #14 07-27-2005, 03:42 PM

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No, the stop-n-go is only for times when you have no preflop FE (which is clearly not the case here).

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It also helps if you're first to act on the flop.
BTW I'm never posting another stop and go hand... EVER and I hope no one else does either.

DrButch · #15 07-27-2005, 03:53 PM

I agree... 44 is not that hot:

49.4% against Ax, Pair, and Broadway
38.4% against 44+ A9+

Of course, if you don't push, you're out of position and unlikely to get the upper hand on the flop.

With no read on a person, I assume that a large blind limp implies strength and that they'd probably call an all-in on a smaller stack. You're not going to knock anyone out, so there's no +$EV != +chipEV argument here.

I don't think the numbers make this an automatic push. So without a read, I'd call.

Bluff Daddy · #16 07-27-2005, 03:53 PM

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damn, still getting the hang of the bubble. i thought this was a don't-bust-yourself-in-4th spot. i also have some equity from checking down or from flopping a set. SB is down to 630 if i check and then check-fold, putting him v. close to no-FE land.

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and you have a lot of fe so use it!

AliasMrJones · #17 07-27-2005, 05:09 PM

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No, the stop-n-go is only for times when you have no preflop FE (which is clearly not the case here).

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It also helps if you're first to act on the flop.

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Ummmm...you're in BB, opponent is button. I'll leave it to others to elaborate. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I ask because I'm stop-n-go impaired. I've never attempted one and am trying to figure out how to integrate it into my toolkit. I think get it -- PF FE, push, no PF FE, stop-n-go.

tigerite · #18 07-27-2005, 05:25 PM

I love it when people push small pairs on the bubble.. and I have AA

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

SB (t1868)
Hero (t2124)
UTG (t1374)
Button (t2634)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t475, SB is all-in, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Flop: (t4467) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t4467) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t4467) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t4467

Results in white below: 
SB has 6d 6h (two pair, sevens and sixes).
Hero has As Ah (two pair, aces and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins t4467.

The Don · #19 07-27-2005, 05:42 PM

I might see the flop here, I might move in. I need a read really. If he had been opening with standard raises then I would see the flop. If he was a chronic limper I would move in.

AliasMrJones · #20 07-27-2005, 05:49 PM

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I might see the flop here, I might move in. I need a read really. If he had been opening with standard raises then I would see the flop. If he was a chronic limper I would move in.

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villain had done the weird high-blind limp a few times before, so i didn't think it was an auto-monster. he also was aware of the raise button.

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