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Old 07-25-2005, 10:48 AM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Rocks don't steal. Am I misreading the post, isn't this guy like 9/6??

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Old 07-25-2005, 11:10 AM
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Yuck. This is closer to a preflop fold than anything else.

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This is closer to a preflop 3-bet than it is to a preflop fold.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:21 AM
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Rocks don't steal. Am I misreading the post, isn't this guy like 9/6??

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i agree. i don't think i can 3-bet him for that reason.

i was thinking along the lines of aaron's post, ie, that he has overcards a lot more than a big pair here.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:24 AM
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Rocks don't steal. Am I misreading the post, isn't this guy like 9/6??

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Hmm. I guess it would have been nice if we knew how many hands tilt had on this guy to get those numbers, but they make this guy seem more like a rock than the TAG that was our hero's original read.

It would be interesting if someone that had Pokerstove compared our hand with a likely range of hands for someone with a PFR of 7. Getting 5:1 closing the action, this still seems like a profitable call but I don't have the numbers to back it up right now.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:34 AM
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Rocks don't steal. Am I misreading the post, isn't this guy like 9/6??

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Hmm. I guess it would have been nice if we knew how many hands tilt had on this guy to get those numbers, but they make this guy seem more like a rock than the TAG that was our hero's original read.

It would be interesting if someone that had Pokerstove compared our hand with a likely range of hands for someone with a PFR of 7. Getting 5:1 closing the action, this still seems like a profitable call but I don't have the numbers to back it up right now.

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he's a tight aggressive rock. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

he is 9/6, his agg. was something like 2.5-3ish.

i had about 200 hands with him yesterday.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:38 AM
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<jedi mind trick>
This is not the flop you were looking for. Move on.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:42 AM
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Yuck. This is closer to a preflop fold than anything else.

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This is closer to a preflop 3-bet than it is to a preflop fold.

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No. If he's got ~200 hands on this guy (which he mentioned) it's closer to a preflop fold than a 3-bet and it's an easy fold if you're routinely trying to outplay tightttttttt aggressive players on flops like this.

Basically, the Donkey is correct on this one.

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Old 07-25-2005, 11:45 AM
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Yuck. This is closer to a preflop fold than anything else.

-DeathDonkey

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This is closer to a preflop 3-bet than it is to a preflop fold.

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No. If he's got ~200 hands on this guy (which he mentioned) it's closer to a preflop fold than a 3-bet and it's an easy fold if you're routinely trying to outplay tightttttttt aggressive players on flops like this.

Basically, the Donkey is correct on this one.

Rob

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doh.

i call too much out of the blinds it seems.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:47 AM
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After your flop raise and Button's call, check the turn with the intention of checkraising. That ought to do it. You have 99! Ya, that's the ticket.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:52 AM
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Yuck. This is closer to a preflop fold than anything else.

-DeathDonkey

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This is closer to a preflop 3-bet than it is to a preflop fold.

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No. If he's got ~200 hands on this guy (which he mentioned) it's closer to a preflop fold than a 3-bet and it's an easy fold if you're routinely trying to outplay tightttttttt aggressive players on flops like this.

Basically, the Donkey is correct on this one.

Rob

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doh.

i call too much out of the blinds it seems.

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Don't get me wrong. I think the preflop call is fine here. But I think the intent of outplaying a player who has a very narrow range in general here on this flop is pretty bad.

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