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Old 07-23-2005, 04:26 PM
Jay36489 Jay36489 is offline
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Default Re: Routine Laydown?

Does anyone think leading this turn is ok? I sometimes would do that becuase this hand isnt strong enough to check raise, but I would rather get him out if he has less then a flush.
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Old 07-23-2005, 04:33 PM
johnnybeef johnnybeef is offline
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Default Re: Routine Laydown?

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Does anyone think leading this turn is ok? I sometimes would do that becuase this hand isnt strong enough to check raise, but I would rather get him out if he has less then a flush.

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that would be my default play but i was multiing, and didnt realize there was a flush on the board when i checked what i thought was the nuts. when he bet the 300, i realized that there was indeed a flush there, and i checkraised to get him off of either Qc or Kc. Remember, it is far more common for hold a high club instead of two low ones.
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Old 07-23-2005, 04:39 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: Routine Laydown?

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that would be my default play but i was multiing, and didnt realize there was a flush on the board when i checked what i thought was the nuts. when he bet the 300, i realized that there was indeed a flush there, and i checkraised to get him off of either Qc or Kc. Remember, it is far more common for hold a high club instead of two low ones.

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Yes, but you're giving him 4:1 to see the river, so he's not going to fold a single club anyway.
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Old 07-23-2005, 04:43 PM
DireWolf DireWolf is offline
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Default Re: Routine Laydown?

why min raise the turn, then check the river. that gives you no real information, and sets you up to be bluffed off the hand.
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Old 07-23-2005, 04:44 PM
Jay36489 Jay36489 is offline
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Default Re: Routine Laydown?

Well then I would have to lay down this river, becuase I see a lot of "min bet the flush draw" at the 55s. A blocking bet on the river would be nice, but its way too expensive.
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Old 07-23-2005, 05:00 PM
skierdude1000 skierdude1000 is offline
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Default Re: Routine Laydown?

I'm sorry I mis-read the hand and didn't see the flush, thought it was rainbow flop.... in that case, I'd seriously consider folding, no need to put it all in there when he is likely to have a flush...


how has he played flush draws before?
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:32 AM
SlackerMcFly SlackerMcFly is offline
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Default Re: Routine Laydown?

Dude! What happened?

You never revealed what is sure to turn out to be the worst play ever made in the history of gaming. Embarassed, lazy, out rolling gutter drunks for their jeans???

Please illuminate, educate and pontificate.

Thanks in advance. As always, SlackerMcPwned
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Old 07-24-2005, 04:07 AM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: Routine Laydown?

I fold preflop, I just don't think that you're going to get enough good flops OOP with this hand to justify 25 chips while multitabeling.
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Old 07-24-2005, 05:10 AM
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yeah i dont think you played this hand that well
seems like you made many errors in part b/c ur multitabling
give some thought to doing less tables if you dont pay enuf attention to ur tables or try the 4 colored deck for seeing flushes
i would also lead out on the turn or just call, also i think you should try betting small on the river
but the way this hand is played, i definitely fold the river and sadly unhappily frown :{
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Old 07-24-2005, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Routine Laydown?

I don't like the turn raise. You want to keep the pot as small as you can in this spot so you can throw a river blocking bet without being totally commited to the hand.

That being said, I don't think I'm calling the river for all my chips. His smallish bet on the flop smells too much like a flush draw trying to inflate the pot. I might call it if I have a read on Villain, though.
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