Help with a Strange Player

[Orpheus]

Maybe his game isn't well rounded. Due to his temperament or the course of his personal poker evolution, he may be much better at Heads-up than Tourneys. Many people don't play short or heads-up very well.

He may have a few tricks to exploit the few sometimes key differences between "final two" in a SNG and heads up ring/cash. IF the HU experts here say that the differences aren't as significant as I think they are, I of course bow to their superior knowledge -- but he only needs to have had enough success in the relatively short term (or enough big wins in a sea of volatility) to convince himself that he either is, or is on the verge of being, a winner at that level HU. Though a lot of good players 'go off' sometimes, it's also often associated with unrealistic expectations or self-assessment.

what's the table availability and turnover of $10/20 HU at UB anyway? Maybe he'd play it exclusively if he could find more suitable takers, but many of the regulars don't want to play him, or he doesn't want to play them.

[mcozzy1]

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Jman's wild theory: He lets his younger brother play on his account in $10 S & G's. In exchange, his younger brother must try to bait people into playing him heads up for high stakes.

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That's the best theory going.

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You are talking about yourself in the 3rd person here? Are you serious?

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and...yes, I was talking about myself in the 3rd person. No, I was not serious. It was a sarcastic response to another poster who was suggesting that I was an idiot. Also, my game is well rounded enough that I can leave the "robotic" mode it takes to multitable low limits. When you've played for years, you tend to explore different avenues when one gets boring.

I watched this guy drop about $2,000 last night night. I may actually load my UB account with some cash and play him.

[sekrah]

Looks like a major hustle to me.

[sekrah]

A very likely possibility:


Maybe it was a guy letting his kid play on his account? He lets his 12 or 13 year old son play $10 SNG's? The kid started running his mouth before his Dad came back to play 10-20.

Edit: I see this is being floated around.

[jman220]

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watched this guy drop about $2,000 last night night. I may actually load my UB account with some cash and play him.

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This would be an extremely bad idea. Heads up limit is a completely completely completely different game from those that you seem to play. Its a fine game for you to learn, but don't do it at 10/20, do it at .5/1. The fact that he dropped two grand does not really indicate anything at all about his skill level. Limit HU holdem has to have one of the highest, if not the highest, variancerate amongst games of poker.

[Orpheus]

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Also, my game is well rounded enough that I can leave the "robotic" mode it takes to multitable low limits. When you've played for years, you tend to explore different avenues when one gets boring.

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Sorry, I wasn't saying that *your* game wasn't well-rounded. I was saying that an inexplicable player might be playing to his own patchy (self-perceived) strengths. I certainly did when I was starting, and I cringe at my "strategy" now.

Maybe this doesn't apply to your guy, but I've seen it happen on the sites and among my friends.

It's easy for a player to believe they see an "undeniable" patterns in their own play in just a few thousand hands when single-tabling online (and especially in B&Ms) even if later results fail to bear it out. How many 2+2 posts have insufficient sample sizes; or moderately experienced B&M players who may report running good for short periods, but running bad for long stretches -- refusing to consider that maybe their luck is balanced, but their true average is lower they think. They "know" they'e good, dammit!

[mcozzy1]

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I was saying that an inexplicable player might be playing to his own patchy (self-perceived) strengths.

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OK. I see.



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. How many 2+2 posts have insufficient sample sizes; or moderately experienced B&M players who may report running good for short periods, but running bad for long stretches -- refusing to consider that maybe their luck is balanced, but their true average is lower they think

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Good point. I understand where you're coming from now.

....and yes, I know that just because he dropped $2,000 doesn't mean he's a bad player. He just wasn't playing all that well.

My new theory on the guy is that he has so much money he doesn't know what to do with it .I have a rich friend who doesn't mind dropping a few grand online or in the casino. He jumps around limits, too, now that I think about it. Maybe this guy gets a kick out of getting lucky and sticking it to someone. I was convinced it was a hustle until I watched him play. He's not horrible, but he's far from a shark.