Can anyone here get away from this? - Page 2

sully4321 · #11 07-22-2005, 01:14 PM

i think your lead-out bet did exactly what you wanted it to do: it gave you information on the strength of his hand. he was representing a hand strength that was enough to re-raise you for all his chips. can you call an all-in with one pair? doubtful. should be an easy fold. i think you're up against a set 90% of the time and AK the other 10%.

lapoker17 · #12 07-22-2005, 01:54 PM

Don't love the PF reraise, but with position, I guess it's OK - Sort of a preference thing.

After that, when he leads into you on a drawless flop, it should give you pause. I play this like way-ahead way-behind. I call the flop bet - reraising with one pair on a drawless board will only fold worse hands and get calls or raises from better ones. What do you put him on KQ? If that's the case, check call all or most of the way works best.

Creating a big pot on a board like this with one pair is asking for trouble.

As played this should be a very easy laydown.

radioheadfan · #13 07-22-2005, 02:13 PM

Why did you raise the flop? That's bad....

Call the flop. Get a better read on the turn. If you decide he has a set laydown on turn. If not, continue to call and take your chances with his 2-5 outer.

arod15 · #14 07-22-2005, 02:14 PM

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Why did you raise the flop? That's bad....

Call the flop. Get a better read on the turn. If you decide he has a set laydown on turn. If not, continue to call and take your chances with his 2-5 outer.

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PUKE (im talking about myself)
Yes your right i played this wrong in all ways....

AZK · #15 07-22-2005, 02:55 PM

Hey, in the future could you describe this a little bit better in the title? Something along the lines of "I raised preflop and have 1 pair wtih AK, I know this, villain knows this, table knows this, villain moves all in, do I get away?"

Or something along those lines...

arod15 · #16 07-22-2005, 02:57 PM

will do

fimbulwinter · #17 07-22-2005, 03:12 PM

good to see you posting again

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the call is horrendous.

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but why the kid gloves? let us know how you really feel.

fim

Leptyne · #18 07-22-2005, 04:14 PM

When you re-raise pre-flop most players will check to the raiser. The good players know this is wrong and will lead with a strong hand. When led into on the flop warning bells should sound, red warning lights should be flashing in your mind. The reason Brunson prefers this hand over AA is because its so easy to get away from, or should be. Learn to recognize the difference between flops. A bad flop for you is a good flop for other holdings.

Mark1808 · #19 07-22-2005, 05:04 PM

Great post, I know many times I would lose all my chips here. What if there is a flush draw and the villan is known to be aggressive? If he would always make this move on a flush draw against a tight player would a call be in order?

Python49 · #20 07-22-2005, 05:33 PM

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Call the flop. Get a better read on the turn.

By raising on the flop you got alot more information than by just calling and being faced with the same decision on t he turn. What have you learned on the turn when he just leads out again [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I think the raise on the flop and his all in gave you the information you needed to get out the hand. If you just try to call it down you end up losing more money than by raising and then folding to his all in.