Implied odds hands in level 1 on Party

[adanthar]

If 7 people limp in before you and you fold either of those hands on the button, I am sorry to tell you you suck at poker.

[starvs]

I fold both of those hands without 4 or so limpers infront of me.

[The Don]

Because I am pretty sure that nobody has an overpair I raise to t75 with the 109s from the button with 2 or 3 limpers hoping to isolate 1 or 2 on the flop... This is an excellent opportunity to stack someone. I would limp with the A4 with 3+ other limpers though.

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Because I am pretty sure that nobody has an overpair I raise to t75 with the 109s from the button with 2 or 3 limpers hoping to isolate 1 or 2 on the flop... This is an excellent opportunity to stack someone. I would limp with the A4 with 3+ other limpers though.

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Why would you want to raise with T9s to isolate! You want someone else to flop top pair or even two pair when you have a straight...

[durron597]

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If you think your opponents will give you bad odds to hit your draws, of course you should be more reluctant to play them. On the other hand, it is pretty common that streets are checked through in the 11s-22s.

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Not to mention semibluff equity.

[pokerlaw]

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If 7 people limp in before you and you fold either of those hands on the button, I am sorry to tell you you suck at poker.

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indeed. regarding a 3 limper situation, I'll take 109s over A4s anyday...

[durron597]

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indeed. regarding a 3 limper situation, I'll take 109s over A4s anyday...

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I dunno. I like them both. T9 has the straight possibilites but if a villian has a hand like KQ on Qxx board with two hearts you get the extra 3 pair outs more often.

[schwza]

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indeed. regarding a 3 limper situation, I'll take 109s over A4s anyday...

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I dunno. I like them both. T9 has the straight possibilites but if a villian has a hand like KQ on Qxx board with two hearts you get the extra 3 pair outs more often.

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you're also doing the stacking on flush-over-flush instead of the other way around.

i think i'd still prefer T9s though.

[durron597]

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i think i'd still prefer T9s though.

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Actually that's true because T9 can also easily have gutshot outs to make up for the top pair outs it doesn't have.

[pokerlaw]

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i think i'd still prefer T9s though.

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Actually that's true because T9 can also easily have gutshot outs to make up for the top pair outs it doesn't have.

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I have to admit that I have a slight to moderate Axs phobia [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

btw, w/ a hand like 109s, I tread VERY carefully w/ a flush draw. I don't really distinguish the hand from 109o in these situations...