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Old 07-20-2005, 03:24 PM
Jason Strasser Jason Strasser is offline
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All in.

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Old 07-20-2005, 03:26 PM
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If they dont fold overpairs as the op suggested, then why fck around on the flop and risk a scare card ruining your action.

Plus there is a flush draw out there, so if you CR all in on the flop they will never fold JJ-AA... At least the type i have in mind. I think a CR all in is also weaker looking then a CR to like 300-400, but I dunno.

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Old 07-20-2005, 03:48 PM
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Fold preflop, don't even limp.
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Old 07-20-2005, 03:49 PM
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Push.
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Old 07-20-2005, 03:53 PM
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Fold preflop

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Gross.
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Old 07-20-2005, 03:56 PM
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If they're in love with overpairs why didn't you lead at the flop?
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Old 07-20-2005, 03:59 PM
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I just never know what "bad players" mean. If the other players are thinking players, they may read c/r all in as a draw and be confident in an overpair call, which makes the c/r all in brilliant - I don't know, game dependent.

If they can't get away from overpairs ever, then getting all the money in here is always correct - I just don't see that many players who are that bad.
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:13 PM
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If both players have PP's, and you hit your set it is going to be set over set something not far under 20% (by river) of the time and you are always at the wrong end of the stick on that one. In addition, you will lose to an overpair with a spade there over 10% of the time. You are also not stacking every time you hit (I don't care how bad these guys are) and you can't make anyting else out of this garbage. I would like someone, who always limps with 22 in MP-LP and/or calls over 7% of a raisers stack to post some stats and prove to me that folding 22 is "Gross".
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:23 PM
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I use this move so much and it seems to work nonstop.

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Old 07-20-2005, 04:25 PM
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If both players have PP's, and you hit your set it is going to be set over set something not far under 20% (by river) of the time and you are always at the wrong end of the stick on that one. In addition, you will lose to an overpair with a spade there over 10% of the time. You are also not stacking every time you hit (I don't care how bad these guys are) and you can't make anyting else out of this garbage. I would like someone, who always limps with 22 in MP-LP and/or calls over 7% of a raisers stack to post some stats and prove to me that folding 22 is "Gross".

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You suggested that hero should fold 22 when it's folded to you in MP. That's awful.
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