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Old 07-17-2005, 08:48 AM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: 3/8 ppls at table flame me. I contend this was a brilliant push.

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This looks like a PVS to me and I like it, I think it might even be +EV with any 2 as long as you arent playing the 11s or 22s

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The information that ryba555 limps with monsters after an open-limper may be worth money in the future, providing he is somewhat of a regular.

Of course hero couldn't know that when making the play so it was just an added bonus.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: 3/8 ppls at table flame me. I contend this was a brilliant push.

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This looks like a PVS

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i was waiting for someone to say this. In a way, it really is, in that it doesnt really matter if i make this move from the CO or the SB/BB, once we stack off, position is moot.
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: 3/8 ppls at table flame me. I contend this was a brilliant push.

The problem... I'm not a regular at this level [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 07-17-2005, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: 3/8 ppls at table flame me. I contend this was a brilliant push.

I'm pretty sure the PVS is -EV whenever an UTG limper is involved.
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Old 07-17-2005, 10:31 AM
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Default Re: 3/8 ppls at table flame me. I contend this was a brilliant push.

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I'm pretty sure the PVS is -EV whenever an UTG limper is involved.

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Can you elaborate? You mean solely for the chance of running into a limp R/R?

Ballpark for me what % of the time a UTG limp is AA/KK (or whatever will call a 17BB push on merit) at the 109s?
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: 3/8 ppls at table flame me. I contend this was a brilliant push.

This was 109 right? I am not a big fan of the push as I think you get called too much.

What do you think of ryba555?
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: 3/8 ppls at table flame me. I contend this was a brilliant push.

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What do you think of ryba555?

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Fack i dunno, im not exactly a regular there, that was a stepup up for me. What do you know about him? He got player noted before the hand was up.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: 3/8 ppls at table flame me. I contend this was a brilliant push.

I think he is pretty good. The Russian players have a particularly aggressive style where they make some reckless moves, IMO. He does not play as aggressive as the 'average' russian. I think he plays pretty well, pushes when he should and knows who to call and who not to call. I have been HU with him a lot and he plays HU very well.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: 3/8 ppls at table flame me. I contend this was a brilliant push.

I like doing plays like this every once and a while at the 25/50 and 50/100 to pick up some extra chips for the bubble, but on the following conditions

1) people involved in the hand aren't donks (i.e. they won't feel 'committed' to the pot and understand that they should wait for a better moment with their AQ or TT).
2) you need at least 2-3 limpers to make it worth the risk for the reward

Looks like you got caught with your pants down and sucked out, boss...and the s00ted excuse always works great.
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Old 07-17-2005, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: 3/8 ppls at table flame me. I contend this was a brilliant push.

One more thing: When 3+ people flame it is usually a good sign. So maybe I was wrong in initial assessment.

One of the best plays I ever made I got flamed by whole table in a WSOP Empire tourney master freeroll. People that should have known better.
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