Too Tight? - Page 2

Oluwafemi · #11 07-09-2005, 04:25 PM

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Yeah, no, I totally disagree.

Loosing up in the 5s is sort of the dumbest strategy I've heard yet.

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maybe it's because you play on Eurobet and not Stars or UB. this is'nt a Eurobet or Party hand where you this play might not be all that great.

tminus · #12 07-09-2005, 05:18 PM

sorry but i disagree with this
I dont think ATo is a good hand to raise with when 5 people are left to act

tminus · #13 07-09-2005, 05:18 PM

sorry but i disagree with this
I dont think ATo is a good hand to raise with when 5 people are left to act

id fold

Oluwafemi · #14 07-09-2005, 05:29 PM

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sorry but i disagree with this
I dont think ATo is a good hand to raise with when 5 people are left to act

id fold

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and there's nothing wrong with your play. do you, dawg. however, i've played enough of these to know that i'm trying to thin the field as much as possible. if you're playing at a table that's slightly tighter than normal, you're only getting called or reraised by a good or better hand. if you're a good enough player, you can either bluff the board [unmade], check to the river [depending on a board with a K, Q, or J- no straight draw], or ditch it facing a good bet. i do quit well in these situations, enough to where i raise with this hand.

curtains · #15 07-09-2005, 05:37 PM

I would fold, and I think doing anything else is pretty terrible.

bkbluedevil · #16 07-09-2005, 05:37 PM

I think 9 handed in early middle position this is an easy fold. Also I don't see how flop play effects it at all when your stack is 13BB.

Oluwafemi · #17 07-09-2005, 05:43 PM

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I would fold, and I think doing anything else is pretty terrible.

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do you, dawg. when's the last time you played in a buy-in this low? maybe you can't do that at the $55s, $109s, or $215s.

bkbluedevil · #18 07-09-2005, 05:47 PM

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I would fold, and I think doing anything else is pretty terrible.

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do you, dawg. when's the last time you played in a buy-in this low? maybe you can't do that at the $55s, $109s, or $215s.

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If you raise here it is a leak in your game. Maybe you can get away with it because the players at the 5+1s have bigger leaks, but I can't see this being a profitable play no matter how bad the players are. Even if all the other players are "any ace whores" I think this is a losing play. Also your argument about "I can play it because I'm good on the flop" doesn't apply. The stacks are too short. If stacks were like 50BB sure. 13BB no. You can only be so good or bad when stack are short.

Oluwafemi · #19 07-09-2005, 05:48 PM

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I think 9 handed in early middle position this is an easy fold. Also I don't see how flop play effects it at all when your stack is 13BB.

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we're also talking about a table that's slightly tighter than normal and the blinds are at 50/100. my thinking is, if you got a hand, you might as well advertise it by playing it now. i don't like limping and i can't stand limpers. postflop play with a hand like this is where i make alot decent money. most of the tight players i've played in spots like this fold preflop, especially at a table like this.

Oluwafemi · #20 07-09-2005, 05:58 PM

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I would fold, and I think doing anything else is pretty terrible.

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do you, dawg. when's the last time you played in a buy-in this low? maybe you can't do that at the $55s, $109s, or $215s.

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If you raise here it is a leak in your game. Maybe you can get away with it because the players at the 5+1s have bigger leaks, but I can't see this being a profitable play no matter how bad the players are. Even if all the other players are "any ace whores" I think this is a losing play. Also your argument about "I can play it because I'm good on the flop" doesn't apply. The stacks are too short. If stacks were like 50BB sure. 13BB no. You can only be so good or bad when stack are short.

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the stacks are'nt too short. and who's to say you're even getting called in this spot? of course i get away with it at the $5 level. of course the players at my level have bigger leaks, that's why i make money. this is'nt the $4K/$8K game mixed game with a $100,000 cap NLHE. i have often raised in spots like this only to get 3 or 4 callers, some of which were dumb enough to even put their chips in spots where they had no business even playing the hand. i finished ITM countless times because others chose to go along for the ride following a raise by me with a hand like this. postflop play does apply. getting out of the way on a flop after you've had this many callers when you still have 10BB+ while others slaughter themselves is is +EV for me. always has been. i don't play with Chip Reeses and Barry Greensteins.