France - Page 2

MMMMMM · #11 02-12-2003, 09:48 AM

nicky it isn't fair to take US actions out of the Cold War context and just condemn them all as stand-alone incidents. Anyways, the Cold War has ended and we haven't seen the US recently supporting bad regimes to nearly the same extent we did in the past when the Cold War played a major role in geopolitics.

MMMMMM · #12 02-12-2003, 09:51 AM

Their role is diminishing however.

Helmut Schmidt helped bring prosperity to Germany and Schroeder is now ruining things. As usual, liberalism tends to fail in the real world.

Graham · #13 02-12-2003, 01:10 PM

Ric: "without the United States the world will recede into a new dark age.
just an opinion perhaps shared by more than a few"

Am I being dense and missing some humour here or do you really think this Rick...?!

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Rick Nebiolo · #14 02-12-2003, 01:28 PM

G,

What nation led the fight against comunism? What other nation is powerful enough to counter the spread and infulence of radical Islam?

~ Rick

PS This doesn't mean the US is perfect, but on balance the world is a better place because of this nation and will remain a better place as long as we remain strong and resolute.

Clarkmeister · #15 02-12-2003, 02:12 PM

I think Ricks comment would be more correct if we changed it to:

"without the United States the world would have long ago receded into a new dark age."

pokerlover · #16 02-12-2003, 02:40 PM

These f---ing c---suckers have very short memories. We bailed their asses out of 2 wars.

What allies.

Just another though on these morons who are going to be the human shield in Iraq. We should take them out first. In my opinion that is treason!

B-Man · #17 02-12-2003, 02:44 PM

There is a very easy and effective way to tell the French that we are sick of them thumbing their noses at us. Don't buy their products. Don't buy French wine, etc. Hurt them in their wallets. As ignorant as they are, even they will get this message eventually.

Graham · #18 02-12-2003, 03:24 PM

If evil's afoot, then typically somone will assume the mantle of protector of the populace. If that someone didn't, do you just then assume someone else wouldn't shoulder that mantle? Of course they would. If the US went into it's shell, would bodies such as the UN just vapourise or collapse..?

I'm not belittling the importance of and achievements made with the influence of the US, but making statements about the dark ages is just a bit ridiculous, Rick.

btw, some people have stalkers and web sites have their trolls. You seem to officially have picked up your own personal web nit-picker... [img]/forums/images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

brad · #19 02-12-2003, 04:11 PM

wouldnt it be great if jane fonda was in bagdad (for whatever reason)

Clarkmeister · #20 02-12-2003, 04:16 PM

"If the US went into it's shell, would bodies such as the UN just vapourise or collapse?"

I think the answer to this is an unqualified yes. Without the US, there is no UN. We provide the majority of the money and all the enforcement and essentially all of the legitimacy. Without us, the UN is little more than a political discussion group.